Pish Pads breny, I don't think you will be able to find them any cheaper because this is the guy that invented them and and he sells them a few places but does not allow mass production. I get the ones that are $25. i usually buy two at a time and cut them in two. They last forever. You can google them but all the sites lead you straight back to them. Amazon came up but it was not the real pish pads. I have seen them at one of the larger AKC shows but they are the same price.