[Fosters mom]

Excellent post . I really like what you said . For this dogs i would even jump over my shadow and work together with the people that i really don't like and that i can't stand . We don't need to be friends, but we could share information and work together on the betterment of the breed .

It is wonderful to hear there are some of us willing to work together and do what needs to be done.......you are right. No one said anyone had to be the best of friends in order to work towards the same goals and that being to give the Biewer a chance to thrive. They are beautiful dogs with such personality and disposition. They deserve a chance and they have earned it!

I have read many posts here about the Biewer and it seems there are a couple of people that come here to do no more than start an argument, leaving others to come on and defend themselves.

This seems to have happened many times if I have read past threads correctly and I am sure I have not read them all. It is nice to see that, for a change, this thread is not aggressive and no one is attacking others.

As far as breeding them Biewer to Biewer it is my understanding from several breeds that have been brought back with very few lines that there are more than enough lines available to keep this breed going and onward and upward.

I don't agree if we truly want healthy dogs. To many breeds have issues because the studbooks were closed to soon. While it is true you can keep a breed going with few lines down the road is when the issues will crop up as they have with many breeds that have been around a long time.

Many people who are not familiar with the breed but have fallen in love with it, and, therefore, want to become breeders (inexperienced) do not know enough about their history and/or genetics to know that buying a Biewer from two different breeders does not necessarily mean their lines are not closely connected. They work on the concept of breeding same breed to same breed because they are aware of dog breeds that have been around forever and that is what they have witnessed. They (the new breeders) have no idea about how many generations their new additions go back (in the US, especially); and, therefore, have no idea how closely related they might actually be and/or what will/can occur from their breeding.

When their breedings produce sick and/or deformed puppies, the new breeder has no idea it could be from in-line breeding. They blame it on dumb luck or the breeding pair just not being a good match and they will go and buy another one and/or another pair (sometimes from the same breeder who did not have the best interest and/or health of the breed in mind in the first place) and start the process all over again.

It is not necessarily the fault of this in love, first time breeder; it is their lack of knowledge that will destroy the breed, especially, in these early stages of the breed, (in the US). This is the tragedy.

Why shouldn't they be bred back to yorkies (good and familiar lineage, not just the next door neighbors yorkie ust because you have lived side by side for the last 15 years); they began with the yorkie, why wouldn't breeding them back to a yorkie strengthen their lines?

I am throwing these questions out there, not to be argumentative but to get other opinions and acquire more knowledge about this subject, myself.