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Originally Posted by JeanieK  Where did I say that you said something that you did not say? I reply to the post, the quote is there to show what you said.
I have not been rude to anyone. I just debate what is being said.
Out of everyone that saw the video, you two are the only ones that saw choking. It is not my fault that others, saw it differently. It's all a matter of opinion and your opinion is in the minority. |
...which means... what? That I must be wrong?
If you can't see that calling someone stupid or slanderous is rude, I can't talk with you. There has to be a basic level of respect between people debating. I'm not going to respond to you anymore because we don't seem to be able to connect in any productive way.
chattiesmom, I brought VS up as an example of another trainer because someone said that any trainer would be getting criticized like Cesar, simply by being on television. VS is a valid counter example, even if she's not explicitly mentioned in the thread title. If you don't know much about her, I encourage you to watch her, as I think you would like her very much.
I absolutely disagree that Cesar knew what was going to happen. Absolutely not. Are you really saying he was planning to get repeatedly bitten by a dog? Again, what if the leash had broken? I would lay odds that if you asked him, he would say he made a mistake. Yes, it's true all trainers make mistakes, and all trainers get bitten. To again, I must say: put a net under your high wire act. If a dog is volatile, then don't use a high pressure technique.
As for whether I've seen a dog choked, no, I have never seen someone throttle a dog to death, if that's what you mean. Have I see a dog's air supply cut off briefly? Sure. For the record, I don't think Cesar was abusing the husky, though I can't be certain. I think he started too rough as he often does, and the dog reacted in a not especially surprising way.
To be frank, I will never work with a trainer like Cesar because I do not agree with his philosophy and I don't connect with his energy thing at all. I started this thread feeling much more ambivalent about Cesar, but I was quite shocked when I re-watched some of his earlier episodes, where I think the dog body language was much less ambiguous than the two cases we're discussing here. VS on the other hand... well, she'd probably make me cry, but I would love to learn from her.
I still need to watch the Akita episode.