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Originally Posted by livingdustmops  Give me a break...I see breeders on here everyday bashing other breeders...so are you saying all breeders are not professional? How many times on here have “hints” been said in regards to a breeder. How many times have Yorkie breeders attacked Parti breeders or give the impression you are just in it for the $$$.
Please stop with the attacks and debate why you like him or not...nothing more.
Since when has this country protected their animals? They are property and just about anything can happen to them. Case in point is puppy mills that are allowed to remain open.
I will once again post a link on top professional behaviorists in this country and overseas who believe he is using very old methods and they do harm dogs mentally or could harm a human.
All I ask is that people at least read what these behaviorists have to say. Everything he does is not wrong but he scares me to death with how he handles some of the dogs. I believe he was coming close to killing the one dog by choking him until he had no breath. I try to look at training and compare it to training a human. I never did well when I got hit on the back of my head by the teachers to pay attention and if my parents had ever choked me there were laws not in place to stop them.
The reason Joy, myself and others who are not crazy about Cesar is because we have dogs that have issues and we have spent a great deal of time and effort to try and save these dogs. Veterinary Behaviorists Take a Stand Against Cesar Millan VIN News If You’re Aggressive, Your Dog Will Be, Too, Says Veterinary Study at University of Pennsylvania: University of Pennsylvania |
Absolutely!!!! Any professional breeder that publically bashes another breeder is unprofessional. But being that breeding requires not form of education what so ever, the intelligence level varies. NO one, that I consider a professionl, has ever attacked me for breeding partis.
Being that she claims to be an educated professional trainer, there is a code of ethics that goes along with the word professional.
The animal abuse laws in this country are more strict than the child abuse laws. You can fabuse a child, even kill a child and go on to hqave other children. If you abuse an animal, you are forbidden to ever own another awnimal.
If she is so sure that he is abusing dogs and has inside knowledge of this, as she claims to, then it is her duty to report it.
She is the one that opened this can of worms and if Cesar is on trial here then I have a right to comment on and attempt to discredit, anything she is saying.
We've already been down the road of why we do or do not like him, but now she claims to have insider information and has made some serious accusations. So that is fair game for the discussion.
As for other behaviorists claiming that his methods are out dated, there are probably just as many that claim they are effective. Being outdate does not translate to abusive.
Child behavior specialists claim that spanking is out dated and abusive too. However it is effective and I have not suffered any emotional scars from being spanked.
Let those behaviorists get their own shows. I might like them too.