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Old 08-09-2009, 05:26 PM   #160
JeanieK
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Originally Posted by YorkieMother View Post
There it is in a nut shell.
Totally the whole point.
You can not teach a dog anything while it is under stress.
They can not learn it will not stick.
They are doing everything out of fear or stress and under non stress they will not remeber or the stress kicks in and a dog under stress lives a markedly shorter life... Yes so does an aggressive one. Stress kilss. Cortisaol.

I said this better before but the post poofed yet again. must remeber to copy and then send.

As for shoke coller stuff my complete dislike of his using them comes from the knowledge he pushes a dog to a directed bite and that was left on the cutting room floor and if it had not been for the governing body that is a watch dog for animal use in films and TV we would not know that he is abusing animls and has been asked by them to stop.
We do not kow in the clip posted here what is on the editing room floor at all. We do not know if things went as bad as the other time.
That he covers up and does nto admit to his mistakes is not for the betterment of himself or the dogs he works with.

Here is an open letter by a leading world PHD Behavioiurist on shoke collers
shockcollars

Want to read more

Say No to Shock Collars
Harvard Gazette: Brain changes in learning measured
Companion Animal Behaviour Therapy Study Group - Electronic training aids
Shock Collar, the Dangers of Illusion, Pinch (prong), Choke and Shock collars

JL
I do not believe that Cesar abuses dogs.

Certain groups of people will say or do anything for attention. I believe that if they had evidence of abuse that he would be shut down, locked up and lose all sponsers.

Don't believe everything that you hear.

I'm not sure what your agenda is but you do not have me convinced of anything except that you would do or say anything to discredit Cesar.

if you look long enough you will find something to support your theories, however just because someone wrote a book about shock collars does not mean that they know any more about it than Cesar does.

One person says one thing another person says the opposite. Who do you believe. You believe what you want to believe, we all do. Does not make us right or wrong, just our own beliefs.

You don't like Cesar, I do, and you are not going to convince me that he abuses dogs or that you know more about dogs than he does.
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