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Old 08-09-2009, 11:02 AM   #139
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Ok not sure who john lyonns is but horse training I think Monty or chris or linda tellington jones or Karen Pryor.
Dog training I think Karen Overall. pryor. Pam dennsion., terry ryn, pat miller, Tammy Brooks, Pat miler, paul owen, Linda Tellington Jones.
As for them having an adjenda...yeah it is their buisness but many are in it to help the animls they love.

JL

Fortunately for me I DO understand and I DO get it! I have learned from John Lyons (who I worked with in person) Monty, and Linda Tellington Jones (have the Tellington Touch book) and Karen Pryor (shoot I have an entire notebook devoted to her clicker training for horses). Karen is spectatular -- I used her clicker training methods with my tiny miniature horses AND with my 1200 lb quarter horse stallion. Works wonders.

The thing is, I am NOT narrow minded or afraid of change or afraid to listen to those I disagree with. I can and do learn from everyone I come into contact with. I have learned from John, and Monty, and Linda, and so much from Karen. I have learned from our own Cyndi(Izzy Princess), and a few really neat tricks from Mike(Alaskayorkie). I also learned from watching every single member that I was lucky enough to meet at the YorkieTalk Meetup in Virginia.

Unfortunately people who profess to be experts and support one method of training over all others are all too often unwilling to really take the time to learn what other trainers are doing or why they are trying to accomplish. All too often someone finds a specific isolated training technique that they disagree wtih and uses it to discredit everything the trainer does. Just because I might disagree with one thing a trainer does doesn't mean that ALL things he/she does is wrong. If the truth be known, I am sure that there is not one trainer alive that hasn't made a mistake, used bad judgement or been mis-judged by someone who didn't have enough information to make an educated evaluation.

If Ceasar used a shock collar on EVERY single dog he trained or a static mat one EVERY single dog he worked with, then perhaps my opinions would be different. We only know what the producers of those TV shows choose to let us see so we don't really understand the entire story. In order to really understand why Ceasar chooses the methods with the specific dogs we would have to become a fly on the wall of the homes of the dog owners and be privy to the private conversations with Ceasar and the dog owners.

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