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Old 08-01-2009, 02:47 PM   #68
YorkieMother
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I not looking to debate I am happy to teach but when someone comes roaring in here like a trainer is sainted without any science behind it, I am going to go hang on science says flooding and aplha is not a good start or end point for training.
DVM behaviourist and PHD behaviourist the Humane soicety as well as the regular vets are coming away from dominace training and managment of dogs. AS I posted a while ago your regualer vets by their govening assoiciations in the United States have been ordered not to use or recommend usage of these methods do to the fact they do harm and when done it is tough to repair. They can be reported to their governing body if they do recomend it.
Where ars gentle postive methods make it easier if a mistake is made to go back and fix it. It takes longer and in the long run works better and the effects stick..... usually but not in the case of a dog having a relapse or getting hurt and learning more fear if they are attacked again and caused to fear. then you are at square one again.

Also domince and alpha training does not take into concideration that some dogs like humans are chemically imbalaced in the brain and there for are not out to take over the world but truly can not cope or understanding what is taking place in the world. These dogs under dominace training will not make it.
Drugs and using them and a slow gentle method is the only appoarch for these dogs as even with training the switch can flip and they are not sure where they are. Only drugs can stablize them and help them stay in the world.
As I have a girl that can and will bite and is chemially challanged and she is still alive after soon to be 7 years and on top of that going blind young.
When I speak it is from the fight to keep a little one that should not be here alive against all odds and little help. I have learned this stuff under fire and with a dog that if I make a mistake pays for a long time. unless I knock her out with drugs. If that does not work it is a one way trip to the vets. Seriously we live with a vet on stand by more then once since christmas cause this girl is having a tough time. So when I get cranky just maybe that we are having an extra special hard day. It also means if you can think of aggression issuses a dog can have bet you this girls got it and then some.
Unless you are skilled an many of us are not including brenda and ceser you can not tell which are chemically challanged and which are not so it safe for all to go gentle then risk it.

JL
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