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Originally Posted by YorkieMother  The problem with both Ceser and Brenda. Let me make it clear I have worked in a class using my dog as a guinne pig in the session is that both flood. Been in two seminars with brenda. I spent the whole time making sure she kept away from my dog as she was is far to rough. Even her t touch is not right and acrruste and she been asked to stop using the method by Linda and her sister. ( Brenda wants to talk to me or go after me for the comment above have at it happy to see you in a court of law. it is not slandour when it is the truth.)
With all to many dogs including mine flooding causes a panic attack which causes the dog to shut down and then learning stops. fear grows and we have much biger mess then we started with.
Or you get a dog that will do it but in a manner that clearly reads fear and more fear but as they do not want to be punished continue forward.
Fear is not a state for a dog to live in as it causes cortasol and cortisal kills.
but then again as long as the dog does what you want when you want not matter what and no matter if he is happy of not who cares.
Instead of flood what needs to be done is long term actually desesiting work which takes days and even months to work just outside the range a dog starts to get concerned and build comfort level or get closer to the object that is feared.
Reason most time we do not say what we do diffent is that you rather things wham bam thank you and the dog "corrected" then take the time to learn to do it slow and steady. We all tend to except our dogs to be more perfect than even we are all the time and now.
What ever tequines one uses it should be done with the fact that science says that which you bring attention to you get more of and if you are always yapping at your dog for doing things bad and it is the only attention it gets even bad it will do that behaviour more. Catching them rewarding them for doing and being good is a faster safe methid to train.
JL |
Desensitization is gradually having a dog gets use to an environment or specific stimulus in tiny little steps, flooding, on the other hand, is just throwing them into the environment and not letting them out of it until they calm down. The techniques I saw Cesar use was a mixture of desensitization and
counter-conditioning, which basically is teaching a different task to get the dogs mind elsewhere, and it was rewarded for this. So one could call this "positive reinforcement". A good trainer should be able to read a dogs language, and KNOW when the stimulus is too intense for the animal, and would then break this up in smaller session, and Cesar does this. The important thing here is you can't leave counter-conditioning out of the picture, and Cesar primary focus is to get the animal in a proper mood or way of being. This in itself is
intrinsically rewarding, which is the best reward of all, and causes the strongest learning. For more information see:
http://www.newhopecattledogs.com/for...ING%20FEAR.pdf
Catching them for being good and rewarding them, seems a little difficult with dogs, although I do think this works well with children. You can praise your children when they are playing nicely and sharing, but how do you praise a dog all the time? Saying "good boy" isn't that effective, if you are always saying it. Most dogs, are good 99% of the time, well 98% of the time for Yorkies.
