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Old 07-18-2009, 06:37 AM   #10
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Interesting. I wonder if it's more of an allergy to something for your baby? The reason I say that is...I don't know if you recall what Marcel went through after 2 bouts of giardia when he was 4-5mths old. Anyway, in pups (not really adults) - giardia can begin to digest the intestinal tissue and they end up w/ horrible issues following the resolution of the giardia. Basically, they're Dx w/ ibd/ibs, which Marcel was. For 4-5 mths after, my vet could do nothing to fix his ibd/ibs - he had bloody, mucousy, grainy, jelly, mushy poos the whole time. Finally, I sought the help of a canine nutritionist (Susan Davis) and she immed. put him on a white fish, potato, green bean diet - and *boom* - 1.5 days later he had his first firm poo in 4 mths ! Wylie was also on this diet during this time.

And Susan Davis recommends potatoes for most of her ibd dogs...so I wonder how the potatoes inflame the intestine? Did anyone ever tell you in more detail bc I'd be curious to know.
yes internal medicine specialist, vet and on all nutritionist groups i have read this as well. My vet's dog cannot tolerate potato is how he knew. As soon as dex was off white potato diets he stopped vomitting. He was on ivd white fish and potato when he got pancreatitis so we analyzed it to death for a year and we now know he has ibd in small intestines as he only vomits no diarhea so small intestine gets inflamed and boom vomitting begins with undigested food. Ibd is a food intolerance not allergic reaction. The body cannot tolerate it and then they start vomitting it up and if it gets bad enough in small intestine it triggers pancreatitis since pancreas is right next to small intestines. After pancreatitis he did fine for 3 months on ultra zd but itched like a mad man so it was the food as he never itched before so we put him on hills dd salmon and potato and bam in 30 days back in hospital with continuous vomitting. He came home and i still did not know but we put him on purina ha hydrolized soy diet and no vomitting since for 3 years until feb this year from car sickness and two nights ago from yam I consult a nutritionist that believes no carbs for dogs just protein and veggies for this reason as alot of dogs cannot tolerate potatos. Jean dodds who we see has it in her diet but sweet potatoes are easier to digest - however my dd cannot eat sweet potato -go figure so in my 3 i have seen the white potato reaction and it happens immediately after eating it- i use organic steamed potato too - also white potato is very high in sugar conversion in body where as sweet potato is not so people with diabetes can eat sweet potato but not white potato and pancreas controls the insulin in the body so may be connected there

now what you are describing with the yellowy poop is colitis and colitis is tied to large intestines as red blood is fresh in poop and that is tied to too much fiber in diet so white potato may be ok in that situation but definitely not ok with a dog that vomits with ibd as white potato will inflame that small intestine too much and not let the food get to large intestines thus the vomitting. This is why when a dog gets pancreatitis and it has only vomitted and not diarhea i feel it is tied to ibd in small intestines like my dex and also izzy who is on this group as well.

It is all so complicated and i have analyzed this to death since my dex was sick in 7/06 and why i started educating myself alot about all this stuff as it seems most vets are not that up on nutrition. I would love to home cook some day as hate vet foods but i have to say dex has done great on purina ha and i will not do any change with him ever as this has worked amazingly and after 10k and a year of hospitalization over and over i am not willing to risk anything with this guy because any time he gets the slightest change to diet he goes nuts and when he starts vomitting he does not stop
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