as far as this thread goes, I no longer breed. And Genna is signed over to a rescue thanks to my thread for help on her needing a c section because she was bred to a very large male by Tammy not by me. what is most important to me is the well being of the moms not $$$$ as any good breeder should be, all people need to do is read to see who care about what here. And my thread posted on fri , wanting help for Genna, and no names were mentioned untill now as to who caused this bad breeding, so please everyone as a former breeder please find a breeder who cares about the dogs they own as well as the pup you are getting& you, they should be willing to take them back at any point in thier life, as well as a 2 yr gaurntee on the health of your baby, breeding for profit is never a good thing, it is a hobbie or to go in show / better your lines so on, good breeders really don't make that much money anyway, as far as Tammy, Tanner her male was free from me, I built her website as well free! I thought she was going to be a good breeder but after Genna / lack of the right diet of the dogs and the greed she has shown here well I think you can read between the lines and see, It brakes my heart I let Genna be put in this situation, but Tammy does not even speak of how Genna is, Is she o.k only $$ so sad. And yes I thought tammy was a friend, only to find she never was at all. And so life goes on, blessings to all thanks for all the help with Genna she goes to the rescue tommorrow, and they will pay for any c setion etc she would need from sunday on. So now I know she will live, thats the most important thing!