I think your first quote is saying that if they pee through a wire crate you might want to use a plastic crate, this is not the same thing as saying they should marinate in their own pee.
Your second quote is suggesting a neuter, and a small crate, the same thing I suggested above.
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We set it up so that Twinkles resided in a crate so small he would have to lie in his own urine if he let loose. He refrained, and after two weeks of strict confinement.
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This is not the same as saying they allowed him to lie in the pee. If a dog is in a small crate that he views as a bed and not an apartment he will do everything possible to hold that urine. A dog "
realizes" he has to lie in his own pee just by being in the small crate, this is nothing you have to "teach" him by actually allowing him to lie in the pee.
I've read threads posted by people who say that their dog is urinating in the crate and they punish by taking away bedding and allow the dog lie on a cold tray in urine. I think this is horrible, even if you don't take away the bedding. If this is happening you need to get as smaller crate, and take the dog out more frequently.
Its clear that I won't change your mind, I hope others who are crate training will not allow their dogs to sleep in their pee, to "teach them a lesson." I really don't see why you felt attacked, but I strongly disagree with you training methods, and the posts you used, as "back up" don't back you up, in my opinion.