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Originally Posted by FlDebra

That is a pretty strong title you chose for your thread! There are literally thousands of breeders out there. Just because your breeder was silly enough to try to tell you the adult weights on tiny puppies, does not mean all breeders are untrustworthy.

Let's turn it around a second. You bought these two for a breeding pair. Tell me how much research you did on breeding, the Yorkshire standard, and your breeder before making the purchase? Did you look into the history of these two pups? What of the parents, grandparents and at least one more generation back? Have you spent time reading online and any books you could find on the Yorkshire Terrier and breeding toy dogs? IF you had done all of your homework, you would have known there is little a breeder can guarantee about the size of the dog as it grows. IF you had joined YorkieTalk and read through the posts here before purchaseing a breeding pair, you would have learned no one could guarantee the size AND you would have know what puppy weights convert to estimated adult weights. (We even have a chart for a guestimate -- but it is still only a that, not a guarantee). Many factors, most but not all of which, are genetics, go into the final size of a dog. A breeder that has had several generations of the dog and seen the mating of that dam and sire a few times, may have a pretty good idea, but there are still going to be anomalies from time to time.

Any time you buy puppies with breeding in mind it is a crap shoot. You have to wait and wait, and hope that they grow to the Yorkshire Terrier standard. You can tell some things as puppies, but other things like the coat, you have to wait and see how they mature. But you can narrow your odds by doing your homework, researching the breed, knowing what to look for in a puppy, and what to look for in a breeder. There are many red flags that can tell you which breeders might not be as trustworthy as you would like.

But please don't blame all breeders! There are some wonderful breeders in this world, several right here on YT that really care about their dogs and the future of the breed. But even the best of breeders will occasionally get an oversized dog. But they would have never sold it as a breeder.

you sound like you know a lot are you a breeder or just someone with a lot to say?
Tina