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Old 05-31-2009, 11:22 AM   #105
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As long as i have been on yorkie talk you people have attacked me with your rude nasty comments. So now i am going to tell you my exsperience with the wonderful show world IMO. I sent one of my Champion sired Champion Dam Males to be shown to a very reputable handler that was suppose to be the best of the best. She took him when he was 6months old and wanted to train him she used him as a filler in many shows to help her friends finish there dogs at my exspence. He had six points from her showing him and she told me she had to wait until his hair was a bit longer 3 months later he accidently bred her Champion female. This male was 4-lbs from My Brazil champion female and My canadian Champion male no one else in US had this pedigree. Then when i told her well we could work something out she said no gets her pedigree's i told her to ship my dog home immediately she refused and i had to call AKC to get him back. She then booked a flight on a day he would never fly because of the weather temperatures and said she will ship him back weather permitting. So I then had to rent a car for one of my friends that lived close to her to pick him up. He was bred to her 9-lb champion female I though standard to the breed was up to 7-lbs. Then when i rufused to approve the litter i recieved a letter from AKC stated she DNA tested the litter and I had to approve it because in her contract it didn't say she could use him and it didn't say she couldn't. I payed this lady 15000.00 dollars when i got him home the top of his left ear was cut off and you could easily AI with him but he didn't know how to breed at all this is the dog that accidently bred her female on his own IMO. Then i showed him myself a few times and i was told one time when i went if you pay me $75.00 dollars and i walk your dog around the ring he will win and get his points so IMO this is why i choose to stay away from these politic. I love what i have and i love what i do my dogs are beautiful I have some small ones i breed and some standard the dogs people have bought to show have done very well in the ring my one female recievd best of breed her first show in PA at 9months old and beat a 2yr old Champion in full coat. So you people can say and do what ever you like. As for the dogs from Show people they pick what they want to show from the litter and sell the rest so what are you getting there in a dog. So you can take this last reply from me and make what ever you want of it. It doesn't matter to me.
Not sure why you directed this post at me since I've said I don't think this thread has anything to do with showing. I guess it's because you think I'm one of 'those people' but I honestly didn't know of you until your re-homing thread. It was there that I saw just how small of dogs you were actually breeding. I've always been opposed to breeding for tinies. In my mind, breeding for tinies was like putting a 3 pound boy with 4 pound girl. You take it to a level (less than 2 pound males breeding with 3 pound girls) that is, frankly, shocking to me.

Call it what you will, I don't think being opposed to such breeding practices is bashing. Despite my feelings, I've kept a civil tone and tried to point out some obvious contradictions in your thoughts on breeding. There are more that I've seen but not mentioned. Also, please remember that you started this thread. How could you not expect comments?

If you've read my other comments, you know that I'm opposed not only because of the obvious risks to the small Moms, but also out of concern for the very tiny pups. The health and safety risks to them are high and honestly, do you really think that they have all gone to homes that can truly care for them properly?

I'm sorry that you've had bad experiences in the show world. I don't show but do hope to get in the ring soon, most likely by one of my litters being co-owned by the stud's owner, who does actively show. However, as I said earlier, I think your OP is less about showing and more about your breeding for timies.

The trend of wanting ever smaller and smaller dogs and people willing to supply them is, to me, dangerous. I really believe that many of those who want these ultra tinies have not done their research and have no real idea of what they're getting into. I'm a very experienced Yorkie owner and I would be scared at the thought of owning 1 1/2 to 2 pound Yorkies. That's just too small!

I don't expect to change your mind about breeding for ultra-tinies but don't expect my opinions to change, either. If you don't want to hear them, then simply don't start threads like this one. IMO, this type of breeding not only is not bettering the breed, it is dangerous to the dams and pups involved.
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