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Old 03-03-2009, 11:18 AM   #18
Nancy1999
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[B]Chapter 7. Pet Dealers
[B] Sec. 1. A pet dealer must maintain a log containing the:
(1) name;
(2) address;
(3) city; and
(4) state;
of the breeder and broker, if applicable, that provided each puppy sold by the pet dealer. The pet dealer must retain the log for at least two (2) years.
Sec. 2. A pet dealer must maintain veterinary records of every animal sold by the pet dealer. The pet dealer must retain the veterinary records of every animal sold or offered for sale by the
pet dealer for at least two (2) years.
Sec. 3. A pet dealer shall make the breeder log described in section 1 of this chapter available to law enforcement officials.
Sec. 4. A pet dealer shall make the veterinary records described in section 2 of this chapter available to purchasers or prospective purchasers

If you sell 5 puppies a year you are considered a "Pet Dealer"

Scenario: I have a family labrador, I want my family to experience a litter of puppies. I breeder her, sell her puppies for 100 dollars each. Since I do not have AKC papers, I did not keep any information. I am now a criminal. I have unknowingly broken the law. I can face Charges!!

How is this reasonable?

Since this Bill was snuck in under the table, there was not a lot of discussion from all points of views.

I read you think the Lemon Law is a good idea...
If ALL consumers were honest, there would not be a problem with the lemon law. Consumers can be liars too!! How is the breeder going to protect themselves against lies if the law is on their side?

Scenario:

I sell a dog to a young couple with an 8 year and a 5 year old. The puppy is dropped on its head, and immediately goes into seizures. The mother rushes the puppy to the vet, It is hooked up to IV's, tests are started, then the puppy dies. The consumer does not reveal the fact the puppy was dropped, relays to the vet that the puppy was recently purchased, and really hasn't been doing well, and now this, but refuses to do an autopsy. The vet writes diagnosis congenital defect... Not Only would I be forced to give them their money back, I would be FORCED to offer them another puppy, and pay their vet bills up to the purchase price of the puppy. So if I sold the puppy for 1000 dollars, I would be out 2000 dollars, and I may have to send another puppy to possibly endure the same demise!!

How is this reasonable?

How many times do you think this scenario or ones like it has to happen before even the best of breeders, say IT is NOT worth it??

Limited to 30 dogs?? I thought the bill was about cruel and inhumane treatment of animals? Shouldn't the conditions be examined, the number of help, and the size Buildings, all be taken into consideration before a number is given. If I go into a firehouse, there is a maximum capacity posted on the wall. That number was pulled out of thin air, limiting an amount, on what someone thought sounded like enough!!

I personally think that it is more than enough, but if someone running a awesome dog operation, where there are tons of help, school kids coming in and loving the dogs, the facilities clean , What is the problem. I am tired of small and large activists groups telling us what is politically correct, and how to think!!




I'm not sure if the law can be made to apply something you have done in the past, but I think your reasons for wanting to breed, "I want my family to experience a litter of puppie." are horrible, and I guess that is the type of back yard breeder, that I would really like to see stop breeding. I also don't approve of selling puppies to at such a low price, they are probably going to puppy mill breeders, or brokers. So many labs are rehomed, the buyer doesn't always understand the special needs of a lab, and it's up to the breeder to inform them of this. Finding the right home, is more important than what you charge.

Basically, I think you are saying that the law requires people who breed sell more than 5 dogs a year, to be registered. I think this is great, this doesn't mean that they need to be registered as a "commercial breeder", but just a pet dealer, and isn't that what they are, if they are selling 5 dogs a year? All it's asking is that you keep adequate records and pet records, if you are too busy for this, you shouldn't be breeding.


By the way, I asked which part of the law says that you must only keep three females.
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