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Old 03-02-2009, 12:40 AM   #146
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Originally Posted by yorkiepuppie View Post
well, i guess we have different opinion or definition of what a BYB is. to me, a BYBers ARE irresponsible pet owners who should but did not spay/neuter their dogs.

do you mean if it's pure breed dogs, than it's not the same as irresponsible pet owners who did not spay/neuter their dogs? i don't see it that way. i see it still as irresponsible pet ownership as long as they haven't taken the necessary steps to become a responsible breeder. all irresponsible breeding ARE bad pet ownership regardless of what two dogs they are breeding together. regardless of if it's an 'accidental' mistake or not. they are both mistakes...

p.s. all the byb you've heard of only breed pure breed dogs? because a lot of the bybers i see in the papers/internet are selling mix breeds.
Maybe we agree more than I first thought but, boy, we sure do word things differently. What I got from the article was that BYBs were the biggest contributors to the pet over-population problem. The author then went on describing a BYB as someone that didn't breed to breed standard. She obviously was talking about pure bred dogs. My posts centered on the fact that pure breds are not, numerically speaking, the biggest problem in shelters. By the author's own definition of a BYB being one that didn't breed to standard (again, it must be a pure bred to be bred to a standard or not), I was stating that BYBs, by her definition, weren't the shelters' biggest problem. The HSUS link that was posted stated that pure breds make up about 25% of shelter dogs so my assertion was nothing more than that 25% of a problem is not the biggest part of a problem. Your definition of a BYB is much broader and mine is, too. Surely many of the mixed breeds in shelters are the result of deliberate or careless breedings and not just the result of strays. Maybe our initial disagreement is because I was responding using the author's definition of a BYB while you were thinking of it in the broader sense. Or maybe we just really disagree IDK, but I hope that we can agree that we all are equally concerned about the welfare of all dogs. Ladyjane, I'm glad you satisfied your curiosity. I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion but I am open about who I am and you can read any of my older posts and see that.
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