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Originally Posted by Pinehaven The only agenda that I have is to give a complete view of how off colors show up in our breed (and other breeds), scientific reasons, documented reasons, logical reasons. Unlike the information on the YTCA's site which, in my opinion, tells the reader what "they" want you to hear - it tells their agenda and the reasons why they don't want these colors in the breed. They lead one to believe that these colors are genetically defective and basically that there was never, ever, ever, any foundation dogs that ever carried any off color recessive genes. That type of thinking is old and outdated ... maybe that was the thinking back in the early 1900's when the Breed club was formed but in the year 2000 with the advances in science and genetic studies, we know that outdated way of thinking is just that - outdated.
We (Jeanie and I) have spoken to the breeders involved in getting the Nikkos parti line registered, we have purchased our dogs from these breeders and we have written correspondence from the breeders about the parti investigation. One letter gives a synopsis of what happened during the AKC investigation and what AKC specifically said to this breeder during the investigation.
We have a copy of the letter from AKC's special services department addressed to this breeder, that says after they conducted research into the breed history and receiving information of dogs contained in the parti dogs pedigrees, it was determined that this color can be produced in otherwise normal litters of Yorkshire terriers.
You say: "ALOT or Yorkie bloodlines go back eventually to Pomp n Circumstance so that must mean, according to your theory, that most Yorkies carry the parti gene".
No, only about half of his offspring would carry the gene, and since I'm told that most reputable breeders sell their pups on a spay neuter contract, many of those carriers' lines would have died out because they did not go on to reproduce. |
Back in the dark ages when Pomp was around, almost no breeder put a spay/neuter agreement on their dogs. That how alot of these dogs ended up in indecscriminate breeders hands. In fact alot of the dogs being shown today go back to Pomp, some even go back multiple times. I even had dogs with muliple crosses to Pomp. Funny how none of the exhibitor breeders dont have parti's, even back in Pomps day. And dont tell me its a "dirty little secret" and its always "swept under the rug". Thats a bunch of BS and hersay.
I dont suppose, since you are the parti guru, you can tell me about any breeders in Britain that are purposely raising partis. There should be tons of parti breeders there since that is where the Yorkie originated. Are they exhibitor breeders of the byb type breeder.( I am not referring to Biewers in Germany)
Sometimes I get the feeling that you parti breeders are just a little miffed that YTCA will not allow different colors to be included in the standard. I think that your agenda is to eventually challenge the YTCA to change the standard so that you can also show your dogs. I am sure that the white german sheppard owners feel the same way.