Hi okay so i have been trying to make my own bows and cant seem to get my loops right i use the stiffener and everything but how are you getting them to look round and really hard! Also the stiffener that i found if the bow by chance gets wet it looses its stiffness. Is there something im not using or am doing wrong. is there someone that can post a video or something showing how to get the loops round. I am trying to make double loop bows! Thanks in advance all help is appreciated!