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CGP · 11-29-2008, 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=KarenAnn;2352512]Perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised how hard it is to sell the truth, how easy to buy the lies. If you still feel for some reason I haven't shown you enough proof with this health certificate, there's little else I can do.

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Obviously Ms. Beavers was not aware that these health certificates are required to be filed with the Dept of Agriculture in Hartford, CT. Not all states require this step, but CT does for rabies tracking purposes. The certificates are available to the public under the Freedom of Information Act, anyone can access them. In doing research on breeders selling to local stores, I happened to Google Ms. Beavers and came upon this Yorkie chat site. I just shared what I had.

When Nancy Silverman (owner of Puppy Love) denied knowing Glenda, she was obviously trying to protect her. She inadvertantly threw Glenda under the bus so to speak when Glenda said on this site that she and Nancy are good friends, not knowing Nancy had already been questioned about her. Oops, guess they should have gotten their stories straight first.

Regardless of Ms. Beaver's show reputation (about which I care little, I'm into animal rescue, not show rings), if she is selling her puppies to retail outlets (pet stores) and has more than 3 breeding females at her facility, she is required by law to have a USDA breeder's license. If she is selling on behalf of others to sell to pet shops, she is required by law to have a USDA Broker's license. She has neither. This means that her facility is not being inspected, nor is she paying fees to the USDA based upon sales figures. This is reportable to the State of Oklahoma and the USDA.

One poster asked why she would sell to pet stores. I can only think that it is an easy outlet for the many non-show quality pups that are produced while trying to get the "perfect" pup. Maybe these pups' imperfections were serious enough that she couldn't sell them with her name attached to them, so they were sent to her "friends" the Silvermans, at a severely discounted rate. Who knows? Who would ever think that there is a group of people who actually researches these health certificates? Obviously she didn't.

I must say I am not SHOCKED,so many show breeders hide behind this, BUT I do wonder how many other pet shops Glenda supplies puppies to that documents are not public, that she thinks No one will ever know that she does this.
Karenann,I hope you have opened up some eyes on this forum now and maybe some will be more careful before they post such harsh and negative statements about other breeders that they have NO information on, have not spoken to,and just go by looking at their website and deciding that these breeders are doing it wrong!!!! After all so many THOUGHT they really knew Glenda Beavers.
Thank You for your time and your information.

11-29-2008, 11:56 AM	#56
CGP Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2006 Location: TEXAS Posts: 38	[QUOTE=KarenAnn;2352512]Perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised how hard it is to sell the truth, how easy to buy the lies. If you still feel for some reason I haven't shown you enough proof with this health certificate, there's little else I can do. http://webmail.aol.com/39997/aol/en-...wMail&partId=5 Obviously Ms. Beavers was not aware that these health certificates are required to be filed with the Dept of Agriculture in Hartford, CT. Not all states require this step, but CT does for rabies tracking purposes. The certificates are available to the public under the Freedom of Information Act, anyone can access them. In doing research on breeders selling to local stores, I happened to Google Ms. Beavers and came upon this Yorkie chat site. I just shared what I had. When Nancy Silverman (owner of Puppy Love) denied knowing Glenda, she was obviously trying to protect her. She inadvertantly threw Glenda under the bus so to speak when Glenda said on this site that she and Nancy are good friends, not knowing Nancy had already been questioned about her. Oops, guess they should have gotten their stories straight first. Regardless of Ms. Beaver's show reputation (about which I care little, I'm into animal rescue, not show rings), if she is selling her puppies to retail outlets (pet stores) and has more than 3 breeding females at her facility, she is required by law to have a USDA breeder's license. If she is selling on behalf of others to sell to pet shops, she is required by law to have a USDA Broker's license. She has neither. This means that her facility is not being inspected, nor is she paying fees to the USDA based upon sales figures. This is reportable to the State of Oklahoma and the USDA. One poster asked why she would sell to pet stores. I can only think that it is an easy outlet for the many non-show quality pups that are produced while trying to get the "perfect" pup. Maybe these pups' imperfections were serious enough that she couldn't sell them with her name attached to them, so they were sent to her "friends" the Silvermans, at a severely discounted rate. Who knows? Who would ever think that there is a group of people who actually researches these health certificates? Obviously she didn't. I must say I am not SHOCKED,so many show breeders hide behind this, BUT I do wonder how many other pet shops Glenda supplies puppies to that documents are not public, that she thinks No one will ever know that she does this. Karenann,I hope you have opened up some eyes on this forum now and maybe some will be more careful before they post such harsh and negative statements about other breeders that they have NO information on, have not spoken to,and just go by looking at their website and deciding that these breeders are doing it wrong!!!! After all so many THOUGHT they really knew Glenda Beavers. Thank You for your time and your information.