I would love to see the chart! I'm so interested in all of that stuff. Figuring out why Loki is the way he is helps to undo it. I actually don't know when he was taken from mom, it was early, maybe 6 maybe 8 weeks I don't know. I didn't get him until 13 weeks and I have no clue what was done during that time.
I don't disagree with you. I say 12 weeks because my trainer who also breeds labs even keeps her big dog puppies until 12 weeks. But she gets them started on socialization and house training. I suppose most good breeders would, although it seems if these people are trying to get rid of dogs pretty early so they probably don't know much about socialization. In that case you are definitely right.
There is still the issue of them being so small.. it's hard to say they should go sooner, you know?
I'm not getting another one any time soon but next time I want to do everything right. I wish Loki could just start over. He's so smart so he's easy to train it's been a lot of hard work. He's doing great though. Today we watched 2 dogs walk by with only a muffled "woof" I had to stand there and sing-song "it's OK, what a nice dog, do you see the dog?" to him, but still, he did great! And he looked to me first before barking his head off (he didn't, but he wanted to!!), which is *awesome*