[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by pauldo

Gardenyorkies: as I stated in an earlier post, I have found that breeders get offended when I have offered to write the contract, and say they have their own with their own conditions -- I've only had 1 breeder so far that has allowed me to change some of the terms of their agreement. Anyways when exactly was I suppose to walk away? --when they phoned me after 3 days of waiting ( I had no other stud and hoped for the best), after the 4th day when their dog didn't ejaculate into my dog (they insisted they could do AI the next day on Wedn. and again on Friday so I gave it another chance -- hoping my dog when be in standing heat several more days). AI worked on Wedn., but she was definitely out of heat on Friday -- they still wanted to breed her, but that's when I said no - she's done, it's too late, you weren't there when I really needed you like you promised, now lets look at what happened here and what is a fair price... I guess I expected the answers I got on this thread b/c they would be answered by breeders. When I surveyed a table of teachers today at lunchtime and told them the story, all of them agreed that the breeder should not be given the full amount b/c he was not available the first few critical days like he said he would be, but should be paid the full amount if my female gets pregnant. One teacher stated I think paying 1/2 ($250) would be fair and then the balance if your dog gets pregnant, another teacher agreed ... I think I feel comfortable enough with these women's opinions who I know are bright, caring, responsible people ... but thanks anyways everyone for some interesting discussions.

Why would you ask a "teacher" about a breeding contract? I would assume that they are like a lot of the people that posted early on in this thread. They are not breeders and wouldn't know how it is supposed to work. Also in your defense, the breeder was also wrong not to furnish a written contract. So it isn't all your fault even tho I do feel like you used stud services and you owe her the 500. regardless of whether your dog is pregnant or not. it should have been paid up front. Most of us that have stud dogs have an ironclad Stud Contract that protects both the breeder and the client of services.