Thanks for the tips! Yeah I use the bleach for dark hair and the best I can get is bright yellowy-orange, which is why I always have to put another color on top of that, and I stay away from anything with orangy tones! I used to do my old roommate's hair with foil and I liked how it turned out, but unfortunately I don't have any friends I trust enough to do that to me (or who trust themselves enough to do it to me!)