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Old 08-28-2008, 08:45 AM   #86
JeanieK
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Originally Posted by Snow Yorkies View Post
That is right not all Biewer Clubs feel that Biewer to Biewer is the way to do things. Not one Biewer club in Germany has this conception. They also have the door open to breeding back to a Yorkshire.

There are 50 plus registries in Germany registering the Yorkie/Biewer lines, unless someone can tell me different ** every one of them still have an open stud book.

We have kept our doors open as well. We will follow FSS and their belief for this breed that it is a variance of the Yorkshire, which is based on it's history, to this date. A gene isn't going to get this dog into FSS. A gene doesn't make a different breed. So don't be fooled! Several breeds have different color genes and they are still that breed, they aren't called something else, just a variance within the breed, period. I don't get to make the rules for dogs, so don't attack me..

We are now called greeders and tainting lines. I can not get passed the fact that in 10 generations the founding stock still is showing up in astronomical numbers. Which concludes there isn't enough lines to keep this breed from becoming bottlenecked to extinction.

We understand the effects of line breeding on such a small gene pool. For the sake of the dog we will keep an open mind and do what is in that best interest. We are not proponents of rushing into just breeding back to the Yorkshire with out rules and regulations, nor in large mass of breeding. This has to be documented and kept within our own breeding programs and not released to the general public for breeding. It stays with us or trusted members of the best produced. The rest of the litter is then spay/neutered and placed as pets. This goes for 3 to 5 generations within our own breeding programs.

Some breeders will allow Germany to do the introducing of the Yorkshire, and import them once they are one to two generation biewer to biewer, so they are just alluding the concept of biewer to biewer. I personally feel that if a Yorkshire is added into the mix.. then I want to know what line it has come from. I want to be able to see those parents, grandparent..ect. We have already faced several undesirable traits within the breed. One testies, bad bites, rounded ears, bad coats. Oh and don't kid yourself... they aren't of all German decent and lines. Breeders import and export all day long. I have been able to trace lineage back to America.

It wasn't until the biewer came to America the conceptions changed for the race to get to FSS with no regard for the well being of the dog.

To get back to the original post... You can check with the BYA and their registry and see if they will. Otherwise I think there is only one registry in Germany that does this registering.

Please define FSS.

That was a well written post and IMO as it should be. If they are yorkshires first and Biewers second then the breeding back to yorkshires should be allowed. It makes sense because as you said if not it will lead to a lot of inbreeding.

Those that are trying to break away from the yorkshires better think of the long term repurcusions. It might not turn out like they want it to. of course I suppose they could always buy from the rest of you who are still splitting.
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