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Old 08-27-2008, 12:44 PM   #32
Shanatink
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Originally Posted by LuvMyPrinceKobi View Post
I agree that stealing someone's handmade design is wrong and honestly very childish to "copy-cat" someone else; however, with regard to the statement above, there are many, many sellers on YT who sell things from "companies" that they order from, not all handmade, Shana being one of them. I'm not trying to pick her out...there are a lot...that's my point. But she started the thread, and I don't think that is what she was talking about...maybe I'm wrong though

Also, just to clarify, I'm not representing that items she or anyone else has for sale are from such "factories, outside the USA where work conditions are less than desirable"...I am just making the note that many sellers have things for sale not hand-made, and I see nothing wrong with that.

Last point, I have bought items from Shana, Cindy, Jodi, Jodie, Des, and many others on here and enjoyed each thoroughly
Selling stuff that is not made by the seller itself is fine. But implying that the items are made by the seller(in order to promote and advertise them this way) when in fact they are made elsewhere is an issue here on YT and that is why she mentioned it. Yes I do sell my own designs in which I personally sew them and I also offer products from other popular designers which I always make clear that I do not make those items myself.
The problem chattiesmomis refering to is there are some members of this forum (Ive especially started seeing this happen lately with some new members) is that they come on here selling thier clothing and imply that they make thier items when in fact while they actually do design thier products they do not make them and instead they outsource them in factories. Lots of YT members like to support fellow members that sew thier own designs and other people are trying to take advantage of this. Buyers will buy from these people because they are led to believe they are making thier own designs and these sellers never correct anyone when a buyer post "look what so & so made me" and some of them have even been point-blank asked if thier products are made themselves or made overseas and they ignore these questions. So Im not saying outsourcing is bad, I just dont think those poeple should imply they sew thier own clothes as they are delibratly doing to try and get sales. Basically, it is not fair to those of us who make our own products to have to compete with the pricing of someone who outsources overseas (which is incredibly cheap labor) claiming thier items home-made. For example I can not make a dress for $10 because I would make no money for my time and cover all my other business expenses so I have to charge $15 + for my handmade dresses. But someone who buys fabric and send it overseas can get a dress made for easily $2 a piece and then come on here and charge $10 . I knwo this is business and this is just fine. But when that same person whose dresses were made in a factory for $2 implys that they made the outfits themselves(or they just do not correct people when they say " look what so & so made me") it is not fair to the rest of us seamstresses who are really doing the work by making our own products. So chattiesmom is just trying to shed some light onto this. I know nothing can legally be done about people who copy and people who dishonestly try and advertise that they make thier products when they dont, but basically I started this thread to bring these problems to light because Im tired of sitting around and watching it happen. And I really started this thread after a fellow friend and seller had her patterend blatantly ripped off and some exact designs were copied. Its just not right. And if more people are aware of it Im hoping maybe YT members will not support members that do this.
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