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Originally Posted by yorkiekist  I cant speak for other breeders breeding programs, but I have never had the need or desire to use a red leg or a black for color improvements. The coat texture is just not there. I do know that these two colors have been used. The last time I saw black dogs frequently being shown or used for breeding was in the 1980's. Dont see many exhibitors showing black anymore except in young dogs that have not turned blue yet. That being said, these two colors are still a terrier with a dark saddle and tan points(legs and head). The breed color pattern stamp (dark saddle, tan points) is still there as it always has been there. If these two colors can improve blue or tan then great! Hopefully you dont loose the silk texture in the process.These colors have always been in the gene pool just as running gold, soft hair or course hair is. I feel that most show breeders will only use these colors if the dog has everything else perfect. If the breeding doesnt create the desired color, or whatever quality you bred for, the pups are placed in pet homes and the breeding is not repeated. Most show breeders I know will only sell un-showable puppies as pets only and not for breeding. So, the breedings are only being done for improvements and are not perpetuating off colors or off color patterns. Partis, on the other hand, do not have the correct color or the correct color pattern by a long shot. |
Thank you ... you nailed it on the head!
You say the colors Red leg, black and tan, and running gold, have always been in the gene pool and their color has been used in breeding programs to improve the blue and tan color. Well parti, golden and chocolate have always been in the gene pool too, they've just been culled, kept quiet and disposed of.
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist They (parti, chocolate and goldens) are so far off standard that it would be the same as if I were to purposely breed a Yorkie with a top-line like a Bedlington Terrier.(FYI, thats an analogy) |
This is what I don't understand ... that it's ok to breed, raise and sell some off colors but it's not ok to breed, raise and sell other off colors.
When I see the YTCA and it's members, adamantly discriminate and condemn all off colors and not just certain off colors, than I'll begin to have a better understanding of their views.
Where do you think the genes for the red legs, black and tan, running gold yorkies came from ... same place that the parti gene, chocolate gene and golden gene came from, "In the Beginning"! It's from the unknown genes of the many types of terriers that began this breed.
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only acceptable color in our breed is Blue and tan. Not one of the above dogs listed, will meet that color standard but only some of those off colors are condemned, while some of those off colors are accepted and incorporated into todays breeding programs.
So, it's ok to be off color just as long as it's not way off color? Maybe YTCA needs to clarify that in their written standards?