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Old 07-23-2008, 01:28 PM   #15
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Thanks for the link. Wow.....what an eye-opener. This was the most complete info I've read so far on the subject. I didn't know the FDA had banned menadione from use in supplements. Based on that, and the other facts presented, I agree with the writer's logic completely. Think I'll be forwarding this to Foster & Smith and see if I get a further response. In the meantime, I'm actually anxious to get the Nature's Logic in and try it out. I know you, and some other on here, are raw food fans but I just can't make that leap. The one thing that concerns me about raw is comparing it to how wolves, coyotes, etc. eat. That may be true but, on average, these animals don't live as long as a domestic dog so I have to wonder about feeding raw for 15 years or so. Is there any long-term data you know of about the effects of raw feeding over the full life span of domestic dogs? I like the idea of raw but this is the reason I've never tried it and all I've seen so far has been anecdotal evidence. Thanks, Ann, for all the info you've given me. It's been very helpful and I've enjoyed discussing all this with you. Jim
There are plenty of people who don't feed raw - and believe me, I really understand why. I do think dogs can get a good diet on premium kibbles/canned and on homecooking. I did both of those too. The more I read about raw though, the more it made complete sense to me: in my head and in my gut. Almost ALL of the health problems we currently see spiking in our dogs coincide with 2 major things: the advent of kibble and overvaccination. So, that's what 60 years of kibble has brought us (in my mind).

Then I look at the 1 Million years or so of evolution, and it's proof enough to me that the animals knew what they should be eating all along. Our little doggies, pampered as they are, are still canines and carnivores - little stinkers. They just didn't evolve into kibble eaters, as much as the darn petfood industry would have us believe . So, those million years are my long term study. And the proliferation of allergies, teeth decay (there are studies tying that to kibble and vaccination), joint problems etcetera are tightly correlated to that time in the 40s when that fella thought up kibble, and we stopped feeding "real food".

Also, I don't think there are any *true* studies that show us we *should* feed kibble, either (unless sponsored by petfood industry). So again, even with kibble - we're going off of anecdotal experience - it's just that we're more familiar w/ the experience bc it's in our lifetime (vs. say, back in the '30s when perhaps they were feeding raw scraps - which could then be our anecdote).

So, there's the loooooong of it - but it kinda takes "long" to explain that part of it. Btw, if you're curious about it - here is a link about raw myths. I have other links too, but this one is kind of nice just from a curiosity perspective.

I think 60 years ago, we took a GIANT misguided leap in feeding our dogs kibble, without ANY reason/proof to feed it except that it saved money after the Depression. Now, I finally see a move to feed them, once again, what they were meant to eat: meat in it's natural state (or, at least closer to it).

I've had fun discussing this too, I could hang in here ALL day!
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