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Lee B · 07-17-2008, 05:58 PM

The Instinct Chicken reads like this:

Calories:
490 / cup

Ingredients:
Chicken Meal, Tapioca, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pumpkinseeds, Menhaden Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Natural Chicken Flavor, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid), Kelp, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Chicken Liver, Sea Salt, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Apples, Carrots, Peas, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Eggs, Freeze Dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Ground Chicken Bone, Butternut Squash, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
CRUDE PROTEIN (min.) 42.0%
CRUDE FAT (min.) 22.0%
CRUDE FIBER (max.) 3.2%
MOISTURE (max.) 10.0%

OHTER NUTRITIONAL DATA
CALCIUM (min.) 2.49%
PHOSPHORUS (min.) 1.43%
VITAMIN E (min.) IU/kg 128.6
VITAMIN C* (min.) mg/kg 50
OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS* (min.) 3.61%
OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS* (min.) 0.69%
* Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles.

VITAMINS
CAROTENE mg/kg 8.29
VITAMIN A IU/kg 21318
VITAMIN D IU/kg 2433
VITAMIN K mg/kg 0.75
THIAMINE mg/kg 19.25
RIBOFLAVIN mg/kg 12.25
PANTOTHENIC ACID mg/kg 23.27
BIOTIN mg/kg 0.608
FOLIC ACID mg/kg 0.675
CHOLINE mg/kg 5868
VITAMIN B12 mg/kg 0.236
VITAMIN B6 mg/kg 4.4
NIACIN mg/kg 79.87
IODINE mg/kg 5.5

MINERALS
SODIUM 0.389%
POTASSIUM 0.878%
CHLORINE 0.688%
MAGNESIUM 0.142%
SULFUR 0.383%
MANGANESE mg/kg 33.6
IRON mg/kg 333.8
COPPER mg/kg 25.86
ZINC mg/kg 277.1
SELENIUM mg/kg 0.794

AMINO ACIDS
METHIONINE-CYSTINE 1.384%
METHIONINE 0.91%
CYSTINE 0.474%
LYSINE 2.98%
TRYPTOPHAN 0.48%
THREONINE 2.11%
ISOLEUCINE 1.866%
HISTIDINE 1.031%
VALINE 2.104%
LEUCINE 3.596%
ARGININE 2.665%
PHENYLALANINE-TYROSINE 1.95%
TAURINE 0.085%

The Orijen Puppy that they're eating now (in addition to their raw breakfast) looks like this:

Ingredients:
Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs, turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt.

TONIC HERBS AND BOTANICALS
Chicory root, licorice root, tumeric root, funugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, zea mays, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosehips.

ORGANIC MINERALS
Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate.

PROBIOTIC MICROORGANISMS
Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product.

PREMIUM VITAMINS
Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin.

Guaranteed Analysis
Protein 42.0%
Fat 20.0%
Carbohydrate 18.0%
Moisture 10.0%
Fiber 2.5%
Calcium (min.) 1.4%
Calcium (max.) 1.6%
Phosphorus (min.) 1.0%
Phosphorus (max.) 1.2%
Omega-6 3.0%
Omega-3 1.0%
Glucosamine 500 mg/kg
Chondroitin 150 mg/kg
Microorganisms 80M cfu/kg
pH 5.0
Ash (min.) 6.5%
Ash (max.) 7.0%
Botanical Analysis
Chicory root 700 mg/kg
Licorice root 500 mg/kg
Fenugreek 350 mg/kg
Marigold flowers 350 mg/kg
Sweet fennel 350 mg/kg
Peppermint leaf 300 mg/kg
Chamomile flowers 300 mg/kg
Dandelion 150 mg/kg
Summer savory 150 mg/kg
Rosehips 150 mg/kg

Vitamins
Vitamin A 34 kIU/kg
Vitamin D3 2.0 kIU/kg
Vitamin E 400 IU/kg
Vitamin K 2.5 IU/kg
Vitamin B12 460 IU/kg
Thiamine 65 mg/kg
Riboflavin 55 mg/kg
Niacin 248 mg/kg
Pan. acid 46 mg/kg
Pyridoxine 30 mg/kg
Biotin 0.46 mg/kg
Folic acid 3.5 mg/kg
Choline 3550 mg/kg
Ascorbic acid 65 mg/kg
Beta carotene 0.66 mg/kg

AMINO ACIDS
Taurine 0.22 mg/kg
T. Lysine 1.9%
T. Threonine 1.8%
T. Methionine 1.0%
T. Isoleucine 1.8%
T. Leucine 2.0%
T. Valine 2.0%
T. Arginine 3.2%
T. Phen. 1.6%
T. Histidine 1.1
T. Cystine 0.5%

MINERALS
Sodium 0.3%
Chloride 0.5%
Potassium 0.6%
Magnesium 0.09%
Sulphur 0.4%
Iron 250 mg/kg
Zinc 204 mg/kg
Copper 24 mg/kg
Manganese 24 mg/kg
Cobalt 0.55 mg/kg
Iodine 4 mg/kg
Selenium 0.38 mg/kg

ORIJEN Puppy has a biologically correct (70/30/0) ingredient ratio of 70% meat, and 30% fruit and vegetables (with 0% grain) that are low temperature cooked at 90c to preserve their natural goodness.

I was just afraid it may be a matter of "killing them with kindness", if ya know what I mean. They LOVE it - which means (like candy!) there's got to be a down side.

07-17-2008, 05:58 PM	#3
Lee B YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Land O' Lakes, FL Posts: 735	The Instinct Chicken reads like this: Calories: 490 / cup Ingredients: Chicken Meal, Tapioca, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pumpkinseeds, Menhaden Fish Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Montmorillonite Clay, Natural Chicken Flavor, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Niacin Supplement, Biotin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Folic Acid), Kelp, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Sodium Selenite), Chicken Liver, Sea Salt, Inulin, Flaxseed Oil, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Apples, Carrots, Peas, Cottage Cheese, Chicken Eggs, Freeze Dried Chicken, Freeze Dried Turkey, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver, Freeze Dried Turkey Hearts, Ground Chicken Bone, Butternut Squash, Broccoli, Lettuce, Spinach, Salmon Oil, Apple Cider Vinegar, Parsley, Honey, Blueberries, Alfalfa Sprouts, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Persimmons, Olive Oil, Duck Eggs, Pheasant Eggs, Quail Eggs, Rosemary Extract, Sage, Clove GUARANTEED ANALYSIS CRUDE PROTEIN (min.) 42.0% CRUDE FAT (min.) 22.0% CRUDE FIBER (max.) 3.2% MOISTURE (max.) 10.0% OHTER NUTRITIONAL DATA CALCIUM (min.) 2.49% PHOSPHORUS (min.) 1.43% VITAMIN E (min.) IU/kg 128.6 VITAMIN C* (min.) mg/kg 50 OMEGA-6 FATTY ACIDS* (min.) 3.61% OMEGA-3 FATTY ACIDS* (min.) 0.69% * Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles. VITAMINS CAROTENE mg/kg 8.29 VITAMIN A IU/kg 21318 VITAMIN D IU/kg 2433 VITAMIN K mg/kg 0.75 THIAMINE mg/kg 19.25 RIBOFLAVIN mg/kg 12.25 PANTOTHENIC ACID mg/kg 23.27 BIOTIN mg/kg 0.608 FOLIC ACID mg/kg 0.675 CHOLINE mg/kg 5868 VITAMIN B12 mg/kg 0.236 VITAMIN B6 mg/kg 4.4 NIACIN mg/kg 79.87 IODINE mg/kg 5.5 MINERALS SODIUM 0.389% POTASSIUM 0.878% CHLORINE 0.688% MAGNESIUM 0.142% SULFUR 0.383% MANGANESE mg/kg 33.6 IRON mg/kg 333.8 COPPER mg/kg 25.86 ZINC mg/kg 277.1 SELENIUM mg/kg 0.794 AMINO ACIDS METHIONINE-CYSTINE 1.384% METHIONINE 0.91% CYSTINE 0.474% LYSINE 2.98% TRYPTOPHAN 0.48% THREONINE 2.11% ISOLEUCINE 1.866% HISTIDINE 1.031% VALINE 2.104% LEUCINE 3.596% ARGININE 2.665% PHENYLALANINE-TYROSINE 1.95% TAURINE 0.085% The Orijen Puppy that they're eating now (in addition to their raw breakfast) looks like this: Ingredients: Deboned chicken, chicken meal, turkey meal, russet potato, lake whitefish, chicken fat, sweet potato, whole eggs, turkey, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, salmon, natural chicken flavour, sunflower oil, sun-cured alfalfa, dried brown kelp, carrots, spinach, peas, tomatoes, apples, psyllium, dulse, glucosamine Hcl, cranberries, black currants, rosemary extract, chondroitin sulfate, sea salt. TONIC HERBS AND BOTANICALS Chicory root, licorice root, tumeric root, funugreek, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, zea mays, peppermint leaf, chamomile flowers, dandelion, summer savory, rosehips. ORGANIC MINERALS Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate. PROBIOTIC MICROORGANISMS Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product. PREMIUM VITAMINS Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin. Guaranteed Analysis Protein 42.0% Fat 20.0% Carbohydrate 18.0% Moisture 10.0% Fiber 2.5% Calcium (min.) 1.4% Calcium (max.) 1.6% Phosphorus (min.) 1.0% Phosphorus (max.) 1.2% Omega-6 3.0% Omega-3 1.0% Glucosamine 500 mg/kg Chondroitin 150 mg/kg Microorganisms 80M cfu/kg pH 5.0 Ash (min.) 6.5% Ash (max.) 7.0% Botanical Analysis Chicory root 700 mg/kg Licorice root 500 mg/kg Fenugreek 350 mg/kg Marigold flowers 350 mg/kg Sweet fennel 350 mg/kg Peppermint leaf 300 mg/kg Chamomile flowers 300 mg/kg Dandelion 150 mg/kg Summer savory 150 mg/kg Rosehips 150 mg/kg Vitamins Vitamin A 34 kIU/kg Vitamin D3 2.0 kIU/kg Vitamin E 400 IU/kg Vitamin K 2.5 IU/kg Vitamin B12 460 IU/kg Thiamine 65 mg/kg Riboflavin 55 mg/kg Niacin 248 mg/kg Pan. acid 46 mg/kg Pyridoxine 30 mg/kg Biotin 0.46 mg/kg Folic acid 3.5 mg/kg Choline 3550 mg/kg Ascorbic acid 65 mg/kg Beta carotene 0.66 mg/kg AMINO ACIDS Taurine 0.22 mg/kg T. Lysine 1.9% T. Threonine 1.8% T. Methionine 1.0% T. Isoleucine 1.8% T. Leucine 2.0% T. Valine 2.0% T. Arginine 3.2% T. Phen. 1.6% T. Histidine 1.1 T. Cystine 0.5% MINERALS Sodium 0.3% Chloride 0.5% Potassium 0.6% Magnesium 0.09% Sulphur 0.4% Iron 250 mg/kg Zinc 204 mg/kg Copper 24 mg/kg Manganese 24 mg/kg Cobalt 0.55 mg/kg Iodine 4 mg/kg Selenium 0.38 mg/kg ORIJEN Puppy has a biologically correct (70/30/0) ingredient ratio of 70% meat, and 30% fruit and vegetables (with 0% grain) that are low temperature cooked at 90c to preserve their natural goodness. I was just afraid it may be a matter of "killing them with kindness", if ya know what I mean. They LOVE it - which means (like candy!) there's got to be a down side.