I heard this too. Starsky was about the same as with any other dog. He learned pretty quick I think. I was expecting it to go a lot longer. I wish though that he could be both outdoor trained and pee pad trained so we can take him traveling. I am even thinking of not crating him now when I am at work. We are probably going to get a new door with a doggie door in it. Now I will have to train him to go through the door! I am hoping he'll learn quick, so far he has learned tricks pretty fast. He is so smart!!!