[QUOTE=punkie;2026322]Guys, I realize that some of you may disagree with the use of these collars, but I'm really just looking for suggestions and feedback from people who have used them in the past. I'm not looking for someone to call me cruel, misinformed or a sadist.
So if there are any owners out there who have used these collars in the past, I would greatly appreciate the feedback.
Having said that, I hope anyone who is against these collars is a vegan. Otherwise they're just being hypocritical.[/QUO
it appears you dont care enough to even consider reading a book....you should not even own a dog
