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Old 06-02-2008, 01:06 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by punkie View Post
I've tried positive reinforcement, time out in his crate, scolding him,
I'm sorry to butt in - but the statements above actually tell me that (and please don't take this the wrong way) you perhaps weren't trained correctly in whatever class(es) you took. "Time out" in a crate - is sort of an oxymoron. A crate is never intended as a place of punishment.

Based on what I've read here - I'd venture to guess that your baby has received very mixed messages from various methods of training from those trainers - so, he may have no clue what he's supposed to do and how to perform.

Getting a collar such as the one you're talking about is introducing yet ANOTHER language to this dog - which will further his confusion and add to the frustration.

A book I'd suggest is by Tamar Gellar called The Loved Dog - it explains how a *dog* communicates - and how to communicate with them as humans. It also further explains what happens when a dog is confused by multiple training methods, as I've sort of explained above.

Second, after reading that book, I'd really recommend trying to find a personal trainer who follows/understands those methods - and then having them help your dog unlearn some of the previous stuff (or, just teach him a new, simple language like Tamar uses). Please believe me, a punishment collar is not the way to go.
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