I bought my belly bands from a member here. I have a 14 1/2 yr old that has problems holding it. I put the belly band on him and use poise pads. They work wonderfull. I also have a 3 yr old that has not been fixed and he thinks he has to mark because of my other male. When I put the younger ones on he runs sideways for a couple of minutes then he is ok. My boys are not allowed in the living room with out them. When they are put in the kitchen for the evening then I have a pee pad for them.