[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by topknot

Wow! I feel like a ping pong ball reading back and forth and...
Marc - you are contradicting yourself. One moment you argue the point about not adding to the pet population and then you say you are contemplating breeding your nonregistered pet beauty girl. Not to pull any judgements - but why would your breeder you got your female from sell her not spayed or with a spay contract and no papers?? What does this say about your breeder?? Just a thought.

JMO - Your girl - just going by the photos - is "pet quality" and most likely should not be bred if you want to protect our breed standard. She seems to have a rough coat, ears down (may be larger in size), and a slightly longer nose. Yes, she is smart and well trained - I saw your video - very cute! I thought by listing her flaws it may help you see the difference. But I am sure she is the love of your life and no reason not to be! Have you thought about putting her through rally (showing). You might have a lot of fun with her doing this.

JMO -
When show people sell any of our pups for pets - we usually have better pet quality than Joe down the road that bred his pet yorkie to another pet yorkie. Show exhibitors want perfection and we try to do the best we can to keep the standard high. So for us a small flaw - may not cut it in our home and we sell them to a good pet home - most of us now spay and neuter or pups before leaving or have tight spay/neuter contracts. This way we do not contribute to the high pet population. At least we are looking at breeding as a science as they did back many years ago to make the standard strong. And if we did not breed for a show hopeful - think of what would happen to the yorkie breed - qulaity may go down, down, down till sooner or later you may end up with a rough coated, short haired, long floppy eared, long body, short legged, puged faced breed, lower in the front with an arch back, with bad bowed out knees, that weighs now typically 30 pounds. Not to mention health problems, because testing was not done before hand. Hmmmmm doesn't sound like a yorkie anymore. Reason to become educated and research on our standard and be very cautious when breeding.

And by the way - show exhibitors do love their yorkies and treat them as loving members of the family. Everyone I know that shows - loves their babies and take very, very good care of them and makes sure they get a lot of love!
I think you may have just had a bad experience the first time and have made your decision based on that one experienced. We are not all like that.
T.