well ladies...we did it!!! either the honey, the saliva, the puppy formula..I don't know,I'm sure the good thoughts worked their magic, but he finally latched on, when he sucks, I could hear him strong, but after a while he got tired, since I was not able to tell how much he had drank I tried with the formula and he wouldn't take it, his stomach looks round, so I guess he is satisfied .
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