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  Yea, m,w,f- 8-12:30 1:30-5 and t,th- 8-12:30. i was always under the impression that they stay in their crate when i'm not home and they learn to hold having to go to the bathroom but she's almost 6 months and she still goes in her crate. i usually give her a bone and a toy while i'm gone. I live in an apartment so i cant really have a pen. honestly, i dont understand crating either, i've just always done what i have been because of my schedule.  
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