So sorry to hear about your babies. One of mine had the same thing, but she was overweight, and the vet said to get her weight off and she should be fine. Well, I was very doubtful, but since I wanted to help her any way I could, I put her on a diet, and, sure enough, her knee is fine now, and she has lost the extra weight. The other thing is, we got a good picture of a ramp for dogs, and went out and got the materials, and my hubby made one. I like the ramp better, because they don't have to jump at all. I found the dimensions and materials needed, online. If you are interested, I will find it and give it to you. Let me know.