[Erin]

Sammy needs surgery. She has bad grade 3's and walks with her knees locked. She doesn't usually do the typical "limp" because she has learned to adapt by not bending her knees much. We're doing surgery in the next few months. She isn't in pain but we want her to be able to walk properly and not have as much risk for arthritis later.

Loki has one mild grade 2. He will not need surgery and rarely has trouble. Those of you with grade 1's & 2's don't just assume you need surgery. It's really with the grade 3's & 4's or if they have visible trouble do they need it.

Both of them are AKC from different breeders. I did not meet Sammy's breeder (we are not her first owners) but I am sure that Loki's breeder did not OFA/X-Ray. She was not concerned when I told her he had a grade 2 and said that was normal...