thanks for the tips, we do have toys for him, and thankfully he does like them, we need to get him to learn to sit and stuff, but im thinking maybe we should do that when he has learned to pee properly, i dont know how much he weighs as i was at work when ali took him to the vets for the 1st time, as for the pee pad, once they know how to use them is it easy to wheen them off to something else or wouild it be the pee pads all the time? thanks for the hints

Neil