yeah thats what i was thinking, by am a student try and economise, how long to do they last, the pee pads that is, the dude in the pet shop said that its pretty much the same thing, but im willing to try anything, we only started him on it yesterday, and he went wee wee thismorning when i got him up, but he keeps trying to eat the gravel, or sleep in it, and with the wee wee spray it just make him smell

so he has had a few baths, i might nip to the pet shop now and purchase some pee pads

2 for £0.99p worth a try i spose thanks for the support, anymore would be greatly appreciated