I feel really bad for Natalie, I don't know her at all, but she shouldn't have been bashed the way she was, the problem is everyone that always is in on the bashing in the breeding threads showed up...no big surprize but this it what makes me upset, if you don't like what you see and you don't know the breeder pm her, ask her question before jumping on her in a for sale thread. I did post because it was getting bad, and no one deserves bashing like that in public, no one had a reason for it. as for the money, 5000 seems like alot, but if you are a breeder then you should know how much time, money goes into breeding and trust me you don't get rich, your lucky if you break even. I don't charge that but if she feels hers are worth that and gets it, its her business not yours. I lost my butt on this breeding, but I am not into for the money, and if you noticed I keep them both, one because I wanted another female and two there weren't too many people I would let them go to..I am so picky and put alot of love into them and I couldn't decide whether to or not. the other problem I have are people that have never breed before jumping in.. I know everyone has there own opinions but if you haven't done it or don't have clue(but you think you do) have a little respect for the other person and pm them...I am not trying to be rude, but who made you the expert on anything...we all have to learn, but in my experience on YT there are too many people that think they know everything and they think there opinion is 100% correct...think before you post, cause like myself I am learning new stuff all the time, and the chance are you don't know everything like you think.