Iam going thru the same thing with shiloh right now, but i know it gets better, been down tis road 4 times before

he gets up about 3am and he always goes poo , so i dont mind, he has not had an accident since the 2nd day here

i dont use the pads so i have to get up with him, his big brothers are showing him the ropes

good luck all, untill then, bed early