Holy Cow!
I haven't been on this thread in ages- it's 1356 pages long! You ladies can really keep a thread going. I don't even want to guess all of the fun I've missed out on.
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"If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226