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Vickie · 10-14-2007, 08:13 AM

Good Morning everyone.

As you all can see, LOL, I have written a novel below...

This is Vickie, and this is my first time posting. My husband is the one who started this thread, using my nic, last evening after I had gone to bed. I also see he joined as his own nic, rammer in post #3....I had signed up the other day and told my husband about this site and what my nic and PW were, and that I was going to post here about Rusty's problems but hadn't yet. LOL I see he's taken care of that...

He told me about this thread this morning.
Firstly, I would like to apologize for what my husband has said above in the last paragraph of his initial post about not wanting sympathy and prayers. It was rude of him to say that.
I appreciate all prayers offered and would like to thank those who have done so for Rusty. The Vets we are seeing (there are 2 at the place we take him too) are stumped at this point as to what is wrong with our little dog and prayers for him are truly needed at this point.

One thing my husband did not mention was that the Vet had found that the food rusty eats is not going out of his stomach and into his intestines in a timely fashion....when we were at the emergency vet, a week ago this past Wednesday (he had some teeth extracted the day b/4 and was in pain and doing frantic panting for 2 hours after eating his evening meal, hense the visit) they xrayed his stomach (vet thought he might have had a twisted gut, I think that's what they said...so much going on with Rusty this past month I can't recall everything anymore

) and found he still had 99% of the food he ate still in there. Our vet then put him on the total liquid diet, to see if that would stop the vomiting, but it did not, so....due to the not emptying of the stomach and the continued vomiting no matter what he ate, our vet then thought he might have a tumor and that is why we had the exploratory done this past Wednesday. Which leads us to now and still no diagnosis about what is so wrong with him.

Yorkieluv:
Blood work was done 2 weeks ago when this last bout of vomiting and diahhrea started, again

, and all levels, except protein, which was slightly high, but at an acceptable level to the Vet, were all good. Since the kidney failure episode, which BTW was in late April, not June as my husband had said, we have had his levels checked once prior to the other week and all was fine then as well. ALT, if you are referring to the liver, that was fine. ALB, ?? Sorry, I have no idea what that is, but will presume that it is ok too, since the vet said all levels were good.

Sweetr72:
Thank you for the welcome.

We are in S.E. Ontario, in the Toronto area.

dcapper (derek): We had changed his diet to a special kibble the vet has that was for dogs with stomach problems (sorry can't recall ATM what it was) back in July after yet another bout of vomiting and diahrea. The vet said he could also stay on a bit of the rollover for variety. we had blood work done then to check to see that he had not gone into kidney failure again. He had not, all levels were good. Rusty, from that point on in July, would vomit at least once a week for a day or for a few hours but would always be ok the next day...the vet also, at that time put him on reglan (to give him when he did vomit to stop it and it worked well. In fact, he was put on it after he had his teeth taken out twice daily and is still on it but only once daily since we brought him home yesterday. Oh and he is also on prilosec once daily as of yesterday). But come mid Sept. he was getting increasingly sicker with the vomiting on that diet as well. I did, back in May when he came home from the stay at the vets after the kidney failure, I put him on a frozen, raw, organic chicken, veg and fruit dog food from pet valu. (Brand name, natures variety, organic chicken diet) (with the vets blessings). I had to cook it for him because he wouldn't eat it raw, and he took to that for a few weeks, but then the vomiting started again so we stopped that...and he went back on the rollover and the kibble he had been on b/4 the kidney failure. Bottom line is, I have tried all sorts of different foods over the years and especially this past 6 mos. or so and nothing works....he may take to it for a brief time, but he starts vomiting eventually, no matter what it is.
As far as the prednisone, he was on that when he was in kidney failure and stayed on it for a week after he came home. If you are suggesting it as an anti inflamatory, I believe that the reglan he is on is doing a similar job.
FYI I just remembered, he did not vomit for 3 weeks after he came home from the kidney failure episode when he was on the predinisone...not sure that is what helped though, but will ask the vet in the morning. IMO prednisone is a nasty drug and I'd rather not have him go on that drug to prevent him vomiting for the rest of his lifetime.

Yorkiedaze:
Thank you for the welcome.

I have as you can see above outlined his diet for the past while. I believe the raw chicken diet would fall into the catagory of people food...do you agree?? and back when he started that, he tolerated it fine for a period of time and then he started vomiting it as well. I also had him back on that after he had his teeth extracted (ground very fine) for a few days and also that is what he had eaten the day we took him to the emergency vet...But when our vet saw that it had not digested properly, that is when she put him on the total liquid diet. Whether he can tolerate it this time, I have no idea because at this point he is not allowed to eat any solid foods.
The specialist is a very good suggestion. Thank you. I will t/t the vet about that tomorrow morning.

Chattiesmom:
Thank you for the welcome.

It is a mystery illness indeed. So far, as I mentioned above we have 2 vets stumped for an answer to the vomiting and diahhrea. Allergies have been mentioned, by the vet, and that we would tackle them (if that's the case) once he has stopped the vomiting. Last night and yesterday afternoon after we got him home from the vets,I gave him, with the vets ok, the liquid from canned chicken soup, as well as a 1/4 of a teaspoon of strained, pureed beef and vegetable baby food. I used the whisk to blend it totally into the soup liquid.

Now then with all the above said, this is what happened last evening and over the night and this morning.
He ate about 1/2 and a bit of a cup of the soup/baby combo, 1/4 cup at a time, during the afternoon and for his dinner. After dinner about 8ish. I had to give him the prilosec. It is in a 10mg. gel cap and he was to get only 5mgs. so, we had to split it. I put it with a teeny weeny bit of ice cream and he took it down. 10 min. later he vomited that up. So, I took approx 3mgs. of the other 5mgs. and gave it to him again. He did not vomit that. During the night, he vomited 4 times. This morning I gave him his 1/4 tab. of raglan with nothing, left it whole, and put it down his throat with my fingers. Gave him a syringe with a teeny bit of water to moisten his throat. That came back up 5 min. later. So again I put another 1/4 tab down his throat with by hand and no water. It is now 11:47 a.m. and all is well. Pill stayed down. Rusty has drank some water. He has not eaten any of his chicken soup broth,with no baby food, yet. So finally the reglan is doing it's job.

We will at this point be back at the vets. first thing in the morning unless something drastic happens, we'll then get in touch with the emergency vet. right away.

I'm ready to pull out my hair. All that Rusty is going through and has gone through, esp. in the past 2 weeks, is breaking mine and my husbands hearts.

I would like once again, thank you all for your prayers, warm welcomes and your advice.

I wish I could call in Dr. Greg House at this point. hehehe. http://www.fox.com/house/ He'd solve this mystery and have Rusty fixed PDQ...

10-14-2007, 08:13 AM	#8
Vickie YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2	Good Morning everyone. As you all can see, LOL, I have written a novel below... This is Vickie, and this is my first time posting. My husband is the one who started this thread, using my nic, last evening after I had gone to bed. I also see he joined as his own nic, rammer in post #3....I had signed up the other day and told my husband about this site and what my nic and PW were, and that I was going to post here about Rusty's problems but hadn't yet. LOL I see he's taken care of that... He told me about this thread this morning. Firstly, I would like to apologize for what my husband has said above in the last paragraph of his initial post about not wanting sympathy and prayers. It was rude of him to say that. I appreciate all prayers offered and would like to thank those who have done so for Rusty. The Vets we are seeing (there are 2 at the place we take him too) are stumped at this point as to what is wrong with our little dog and prayers for him are truly needed at this point. One thing my husband did not mention was that the Vet had found that the food rusty eats is not going out of his stomach and into his intestines in a timely fashion....when we were at the emergency vet, a week ago this past Wednesday (he had some teeth extracted the day b/4 and was in pain and doing frantic panting for 2 hours after eating his evening meal, hense the visit) they xrayed his stomach (vet thought he might have had a twisted gut, I think that's what they said...so much going on with Rusty this past month I can't recall everything anymore ) and found he still had 99% of the food he ate still in there. Our vet then put him on the total liquid diet, to see if that would stop the vomiting, but it did not, so....due to the not emptying of the stomach and the continued vomiting no matter what he ate, our vet then thought he might have a tumor and that is why we had the exploratory done this past Wednesday. Which leads us to now and still no diagnosis about what is so wrong with him. Yorkieluv: Blood work was done 2 weeks ago when this last bout of vomiting and diahhrea started, again , and all levels, except protein, which was slightly high, but at an acceptable level to the Vet, were all good. Since the kidney failure episode, which BTW was in late April, not June as my husband had said, we have had his levels checked once prior to the other week and all was fine then as well. ALT, if you are referring to the liver, that was fine. ALB, ?? Sorry, I have no idea what that is, but will presume that it is ok too, since the vet said all levels were good. Sweetr72: Thank you for the welcome. We are in S.E. Ontario, in the Toronto area. dcapper (derek): We had changed his diet to a special kibble the vet has that was for dogs with stomach problems (sorry can't recall ATM what it was) back in July after yet another bout of vomiting and diahrea. The vet said he could also stay on a bit of the rollover for variety. we had blood work done then to check to see that he had not gone into kidney failure again. He had not, all levels were good. Rusty, from that point on in July, would vomit at least once a week for a day or for a few hours but would always be ok the next day...the vet also, at that time put him on reglan (to give him when he did vomit to stop it and it worked well. In fact, he was put on it after he had his teeth taken out twice daily and is still on it but only once daily since we brought him home yesterday. Oh and he is also on prilosec once daily as of yesterday). But come mid Sept. he was getting increasingly sicker with the vomiting on that diet as well. I did, back in May when he came home from the stay at the vets after the kidney failure, I put him on a frozen, raw, organic chicken, veg and fruit dog food from pet valu. (Brand name, natures variety, organic chicken diet) (with the vets blessings). I had to cook it for him because he wouldn't eat it raw, and he took to that for a few weeks, but then the vomiting started again so we stopped that...and he went back on the rollover and the kibble he had been on b/4 the kidney failure. Bottom line is, I have tried all sorts of different foods over the years and especially this past 6 mos. or so and nothing works....he may take to it for a brief time, but he starts vomiting eventually, no matter what it is. As far as the prednisone, he was on that when he was in kidney failure and stayed on it for a week after he came home. If you are suggesting it as an anti inflamatory, I believe that the reglan he is on is doing a similar job. FYI I just remembered, he did not vomit for 3 weeks after he came home from the kidney failure episode when he was on the predinisone...not sure that is what helped though, but will ask the vet in the morning. IMO prednisone is a nasty drug and I'd rather not have him go on that drug to prevent him vomiting for the rest of his lifetime. Yorkiedaze: Thank you for the welcome. I have as you can see above outlined his diet for the past while. I believe the raw chicken diet would fall into the catagory of people food...do you agree?? and back when he started that, he tolerated it fine for a period of time and then he started vomiting it as well. I also had him back on that after he had his teeth extracted (ground very fine) for a few days and also that is what he had eaten the day we took him to the emergency vet...But when our vet saw that it had not digested properly, that is when she put him on the total liquid diet. Whether he can tolerate it this time, I have no idea because at this point he is not allowed to eat any solid foods. The specialist is a very good suggestion. Thank you. I will t/t the vet about that tomorrow morning. Chattiesmom: Thank you for the welcome. It is a mystery illness indeed. So far, as I mentioned above we have 2 vets stumped for an answer to the vomiting and diahhrea. Allergies have been mentioned, by the vet, and that we would tackle them (if that's the case) once he has stopped the vomiting. Last night and yesterday afternoon after we got him home from the vets,I gave him, with the vets ok, the liquid from canned chicken soup, as well as a 1/4 of a teaspoon of strained, pureed beef and vegetable baby food. I used the whisk to blend it totally into the soup liquid. Now then with all the above said, this is what happened last evening and over the night and this morning. He ate about 1/2 and a bit of a cup of the soup/baby combo, 1/4 cup at a time, during the afternoon and for his dinner. After dinner about 8ish. I had to give him the prilosec. It is in a 10mg. gel cap and he was to get only 5mgs. so, we had to split it. I put it with a teeny weeny bit of ice cream and he took it down. 10 min. later he vomited that up. So, I took approx 3mgs. of the other 5mgs. and gave it to him again. He did not vomit that. During the night, he vomited 4 times. This morning I gave him his 1/4 tab. of raglan with nothing, left it whole, and put it down his throat with my fingers. Gave him a syringe with a teeny bit of water to moisten his throat. That came back up 5 min. later. So again I put another 1/4 tab down his throat with by hand and no water. It is now 11:47 a.m. and all is well. Pill stayed down. Rusty has drank some water. He has not eaten any of his chicken soup broth,with no baby food, yet. So finally the reglan is doing it's job. We will at this point be back at the vets. first thing in the morning unless something drastic happens, we'll then get in touch with the emergency vet. right away. I'm ready to pull out my hair. All that Rusty is going through and has gone through, esp. in the past 2 weeks, is breaking mine and my husbands hearts. I would like once again, thank you all for your prayers, warm welcomes and your advice. I wish I could call in Dr. Greg House at this point. hehehe. http://www.fox.com/house/ He'd solve this mystery and have Rusty fixed PDQ...