[kathy785]

I don’t believe that I said “American Registries are the way to go” – those are your words, not mine. I merely stated that there are American Registries that are being started here to keep track of the lines of these dogs. Most breeders that I know of are dual registering their breeding dogs with accepted German registries. How many registries are your dogs registered with? Are they all DHZ/IBC?

I did not state that American is the way to go. I do not have any of my Biewers registered in the US! I have dogs registered with IBC (3Biewers), HCLB (1 Yorkie), ACH-L (2 yorkies), WRV (1 Biewer), URC (1 Biewer), APRI (1 Toy poodle), 3 unregistered (1 mutt, 1 Anatolian shepherd, 1 yorkie) Plus 7 puppies that will be registered with IBC

As far as being biased… the OP was asking about the BYA – they most likely already have that website. I put two down, and now you have shared another with them. I agree, every person should decide for themselves if they want to belong to a club. But they should not be given partial or wrong information. Anyone who is interested in these dogs should do their OWN research and not go by just one person’s opinion.

You gave only partial information when you told them only 2 clubs to check out.

As far as taking note of members’ lists – those are not always what they seem. And yes, Kathy, you actually belonged to TWO clubs that I did. The one you’re speaking of -- the rules were NOT changed to suit the president, (or anyone for that matter) and the dishonesty was on the part of a member who broke the club rules and started rumors about other members. She did not get “kicked out” she resigned after her lies were exposed. As far as treating members with respect, you have aligned yourself with people in a club who have no respect for any one. The bickering and backstabbing is rampant in their ranks – and their sole purpose seems to be to discredit anyone and everyone who chooses not to “believe” their way… and will stoop to the lowest levels to accomplish this.

Yes, I belonged to two groups. The first one I was told to leave by the people forming the "new" club, so I aligned myself with the "new" club. I can tell you what rules were changed and why, but I will not do that on a public forum. I can also tell you how I personally was poorly treated while I was still a member and recently at shows. I can tell you of lies that I was told and how I found out the truth. But again, not on a public forum. The people you say bicker and backstab have treated me tremendously and at this point if I do join a club it will be theirs (Funny it is the first club I belonged to, but left because of things I was told.) They made me, an outsider, feel like I was welcome at their specialty this last spring. For all they knew I could have been a spy for the "new" club.

Respect should be earned, not given.

Exactly!!! Will not even begin to elaborate on this one.

Sad to say that the OP was looking for information. I gave what information I knew and think that people should be aware of. I have always told ANYONE that asks me about US clubs that they need to go out and check them out for themselves. Even though I myself have pulled from the two clubs, I have not told anyone to not join or check out these clubs. The world needs and thrives on variety, just sad that it has to have the bickering.