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Originally Posted by kathy785  I believe I did say that the IBC is a CLUB. (like AKC is more than just a registry, it is a club!) I still believe that the Biewers need to be registered in GERMANY until they are accepted by AKC. The IBC will NOT honor US born dogs not registered with them, so you cannot say that the German registries all honor the other registries. (Yes, some of the German registries are just that, they are not clubs) People looking into purchasing a Biewer need to know these facts. I do know that the IABCA and NAKC are accepting the American registries, but I have also been told that I could start my own Biewer registry and they would accept that too. Now tell me what good would the KMTBR be to anyone??? Yes, we need to keep track of our lineages, but to say that the American registries are the way to go is also misleading people. The registries here in the US are basically for one purpose only, To obtain the needed information to gain AKC acceptance.
I have also been told, but not tried it out yet that ACA, UABR, and APRI will allow the Biewers to be shown (by representatives of these clubs)
There are several Biewer clubs here in the US and I have sent people to all of the different web pages, whether I agree with them or not. There are people here on YT that can verify that I have sent them web addresses for the different clubs. Each person needs to decide for themself if they want to even belong to a club and if so which one. Sad to say that because of the bickering they could probably belong to only one club and not have multiple memberships. I can see that you are biased as you only put 2 of the addresses down for the US clubs. What about letting them check out the other ones too? http://biewer-btca.com/ http://www.geocities.com/bieweryorkieassociation/
People need to take note of the members' lists on the clubs' sites. I did belong to one of the clubs that Toby'sMama gave, but their membership has been rapidly dropping. I would not belong to a club that changed its rules to suit the president, treated members unfairly, and were dishonest. That is not how I wanted to be known, so I could not stay a member with a clear conscience. I chose to not belong to any group, but I have been searching for a US Biewer club that will be honest and treat its members with respect. |
Well Kathy… you’re right… the AKC is a CLUB, as well as a registry. This is a club that registers multiple breeds, not just one. You also said that anybody who bought their dogs should make sure they are registered with the IBC. The IBC is just a Club… the IBC dogs are registered with the DHZ. And, if you read my post, I said: There are many registries in Germany that accept the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier, and they all acknowledge and accept each other's registry. I stated that German registries accepted OTHER German registries.
I don’t believe that I said “American Registries are the way to go” – those are your words, not mine. I merely stated that there are American Registries that are being started here to keep track of the lines of these dogs. Most breeders that I know of are dual registering their breeding dogs with accepted German registries. How many registries are your dogs registered with? Are they all DHZ/IBC?
As far as being biased… the OP was asking about the BYA – they most likely already have that website. I put two down, and now you have shared another with them. I agree, every person should decide for themselves if they want to belong to a club. But they should not be given partial or wrong information. Anyone who is interested in these dogs should do their OWN research and not go by just one person’s opinion.
As far as taking note of members’ lists – those are not always what they seem. And yes, Kathy, you actually belonged to TWO clubs that I did. The one you’re speaking of -- the rules were NOT changed to suit the president, (or anyone for that matter) and the dishonesty was on the part of a member who broke the club rules and started rumors about other members. She did not get “kicked out” she resigned after her lies were exposed. As far as treating members with respect, you have aligned yourself with people in a club who have no respect for any one. The bickering and backstabbing is rampant in their ranks – and their sole purpose seems to be to discredit anyone and everyone who chooses not to “believe” their way… and will stoop to the lowest levels to accomplish this.
Respect should be earned, not given.