Okay, I'm an idiot--apparently this isn't a new thread--if I would have scrolled down I would have found numerous responses to it. I do want to be clear that I do love what Ceaser Milan is able to accomplish--I'd love to have him come work with my dog. I have been able to use his philosophy to keep my dog from running out the door when it is open--that was huge! Maybe I'll try the picking up technique (like the mom does--gently anyhow, and see if that works when he is barking). I love reading the threads and have been away to long!