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I used to have the same problem with my cocker and I realized that she was not getting enough time outside. Sure, they will look at you like they are done and want to come back in, but I got to the point where if I knew she had eaten recently, I wouldn't let her come in until she pooped. After a few times of standing outside for 45 min +, she realized that if she poops, we can go back in. And then, I realized that after being crated all day, she needed to poop twice before coming back in. You have to understand, when they are crated for long periods of time, she is sitting there still for a long time. Once she starts moving around, her body kicks into gear and she will have to poop. So if she is in her crate all night, then you take her outside and she doesn't poop, then you put her back in her crate for the day while you are at work....she needs to poop before you put her in there all day. She got to moving around and got the body functions all worked up, then goes in her crate. she can't help it at that point, it is going to come out.

I say she needs extra time to poo before going in her crate...morning or night.

it really helped with my cocker...making sure she poo'd before going in her crate. and then we started training her to not have to stay in her crate...and that is when all of her housebreaking problems stopped. once she had full roam of the house, she was not as hyper, and stopped having accidents in the house. Maybe that part was coincidence but I really think you need to give your girl more time outside to let nature take it's course. she will catch on after a couple of times of having to wait to come back inside.