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Again, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. I've talked to this person you are referring to and I think he just came off wrong to everyone. He didn't want the yorkie in the first place, but he is trying his best to take good care of the little guy. He came to yorkietalk to vent. He was a newbie and didn't know what kind of reactions he was going to get. If you read the thread started by his fiance, she honestly really really cares about Tanner and I truly believe that they are doing their best to take good care of him. I know when I got my first puppy, I thought ALL the things that they are thinking right now, but I kept them to myself for fear of being ridiculed. Having a puppy for the first time is HARD WORK. Hobbs used to lay in his own urine, too. If you go back and look at the VERY FIRST thread I started here, it was about Hobbs pottying in his crate. I, too, thought "these kinds of dogs" were not supposed to potty on themselves. And, if you do a search here on YT, LOTS of people's puppies lay in their own urine. And I think the 20 hours a day was an exaggeration..........I think the BEST thing we can do right now is support them. How would you like it if they got banned? Then they would have NO ONE to reach out to for support and for quesitons to be answered and little Tanner would suffer for that. I think in the best interest of Tanner, we should all start over and all learn to play nice. Novak is not the only person to blame here. I am completely APPALLED at some of the responses from some YT members. Sorry, I had to say it.