yes i have tried the finger tip brush too. that one just don't seem to do much. we will get it done one way or the other.
Buckeye is almost his old self again. He sure did look bad. He didn't look this bad when he was neutered. he has had cleanings before but never had this bad a time. Bob says he is not going to get any more. I need to talk to the vet more and find out just what happened and determine how to change things. might be the kind of anestetic used or the amount....I dont' know. I sure dont' know anything about it.
bottom line is he is much better today. thanks everyone!