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Originally Posted by JiggityJig That's really interesting. I was wondering if the difference in experiences might also have something to do with water quality (hard/soft/whatever), so I guess you ruled out that factor!
Seems like you're right that we're discovering that this product works best on silky coats. I actually think that my Mazie has a modified coat, which might be why my results on her were mixed.
I have to say though that even for my cotton-coated Kiki, I'm hoping that I can tweak our approach and get this product to work well for her too. Even though I'm not seeing the "sheen" with either of my dogs, the pluses are great:
///coats look exceptionally clean
///all the individual colors in their coats are really POPPING.
///their coats look like they are hanging more "evenly", to me. They stay looking "groomed" longer.
///they are amazingly SOFT. Like bunny rabbits.
I think (hope!) that using other products along with, I can cut down on the excessive frizziness.
As for the SMELL:
I saw on another thread where people were complaining about that, and it's interesting to hear that experiences are varied on that, as well.
When I first put in on them, it did have a mild "flea shampoo" smell, but this lessened as I rinsed and dried them. I'm not real picky what my dogs smell like, as long as they don't smell like stinky dogs.  It left a mild "clean" smell on them, and that was okay with me. My husband commented that they smelled like "pine" or "cedar". |
You know the water thing does bring up a great point! I recently had distilled water filter installed and ran through my water system so that the water that comes out for my bath and show is pure filtered water. I don't know how that affects their coats...
I do know when I go to visit my Grandmother who lives in the deep south
and her water comes from a well I notice my own hair gets very dry and frizzy while I'm down there and I have to condition it twice as much. When I come back home it gets a zillion times better.
It does seem that silk coats get the best results, it's hard to say because I think many people think they have "silk coats" when in fact they may have a modified silk coat. They look almost exactly the same just react differently to some products. I find the easiest way to tell is to take them outside in the summer heat and feel their coat. If it feels warm they have a modified silk coat, if it still feels icy cool they have a true silk coat.
I did find the shampoo made them exceptionally clean and the colors really do pop and with my two the shine is insane! It does seem to keep them looking cleaner longer as well and very soft like you said! I would absolutely try some conditioner after the shampoo and see if that cuts down on your frizzie problems.
As to the smell, I have noticed maybe peopleout of ALL the people who have tried it make a big deal out of it smelling so god awful

Maybe they have super sensitive noses

Just kidding, I actually did wonder if perhaps some batches are stronger than others? I know on my friends dog it was MUCH stronger but I have had the shampoo for a while and it's in a huge container so I'm wondering if I got some from the bottom shaken to the top or something

I too smelled the scent when I put it on them and was unsure of it but as I rinsed it off it went away and once I dried them it was gone BIG time and I was just left with a clean cedar type smell, like a wood cabin that was really faint. I mean you literally would have to pick them up and burry your nose in their fur to really smell them.