Like others have posted everyone has there own opinion. I believe all dogs can be trained in away that dosen't cause harm to them and I realize we all have our own opinion on what harm is. My three furbabies give me unconditional love no matter what. They have been very challenging to train at times and still are not perfect, but neither am I

. I think there are a lot of better way to teach your pet then to zap

them everytime they don't mind. Does it cause any damage to them in the long run

Everyone thinks there way of training is best. My dogs come to me because they love me, does you dog come to you because he loves you or because he is scared he is going to be zapped?
Browniesmom I am glad you a passionate on what you believe, we need more people like you, I can tell you love your furbabies
These are my opinions and I hope in the future members continues to share there opinions even If others don't agrees with it................Cindy