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10-28-2018, 10:00 PM | #1 |
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| Female yorkie born 31 May 2018 The vet says I should get my baby spayed end of November, just before her first heat. Pro and cons? |
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10-29-2018, 04:31 AM | #2 |
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| Follow your vets advise. For every heat your female has puts her at risk for mammary gland tumors and Pyometra which can be fatal. 6 months old is appox, the time a females comes into first heat, some of the tiny ones it could be a month or 2 later. Years back I had 2 females I did not have spayed, why? because at 6 months old they were so tiny, I didn't want the to go "under the knife", I was scared for them. When one was 13 years old she got Pyometra, her uterus was filled with puss and erupted causing puss to go though out her body. I rushed her to the vet where her underwent a full hysterectomy. At this time I had the world's worst vet that had no overnight care. I was given my dog back that was not fully out of anesthesia which really was not an issue, just a scary situation for me. For 9 days I watched my dog die before my very eye, every night I was rushing her to the vet, she wasn't eating, she had no control of her bladder. I took her to an emergency clinic because she was now walking into walls. They put her in an incubator and told me to call them in the morning. 7AM the next morning I called I was told 15 minutes after I left she had passed away. I would never want anyone to go through what I did, or what my girl went through, the pain, the suffering. 6 months later my 10 year old showed signs of Pyometra, I rushed her to my now new vet, they performed surgery which was successful, they kept her for 3 days, she was doing good but died 6 months later. I implore everyone that gets a female puppy to spay before first heat, do not breed, breeding should be left to the experts.
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10-29-2018, 07:49 AM | #3 |
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| So sorry for your losses. It's so very important to get our little ones spayed as soon as it's safe. |
10-29-2018, 08:26 AM | #4 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Only pros no cons. If you spay before the first heat the mammaries do not develop so there is pretty much no chance of mammary cancer. You also don’t risk the chance of a uterine infection that could be deadly. You don’t risk her getting pregnant either.
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11-02-2018, 02:03 PM | #5 |
Gizzy & Kandi spoil me Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Waco, Texas
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| I know it's terrifying to think about your pup going in to be spayed, but please do it. It really is the best thing to do for her. I am going to go look for any photos of her you've posted.
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11-14-2018, 06:44 PM | #6 |
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| My baby girl is 6 months old and I’m terrified of the thought of what is coming soon. My vet wants to wait and be sure her teeth are coming in correctly so they can correct that at the same time if necessary. |
11-15-2018, 02:24 AM | #7 |
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| Follow your vets advice, when spayed any baby teeth that have not fallen out are removed at this time.
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11-15-2018, 09:21 AM | #8 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| I would not wait past 7 months or yourisk her going into heat. The vet can tell which teeth are baby teeth and pull them when she is getting spayed.
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
11-15-2018, 08:24 PM | #9 |
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| I prefer to wait until the growth plates close and also to wait until the baby teeth remaining can be pulled. Through the years I have had five female Yorkies and one more with my mother. Four were spayed at approximately eight months, one at about ten months because she went into heat sooner, and my Katie was spayed at three years old because she was with her breeder until then and had been bred. An X-ray can be done to determine if the growth plates are closed, but in a Yorkie they usually close by eight months. Katie’s show breeder prefers that her puppies are spayed after the first heat. I realize that there is a higher chance of mammary tumors if you wait, but there are other factors to consider. I find this article very helpful. These studies were done with larger dogs, but I believe they are worthy of consideration. All of my little ones love (loved) walking, and when in heat, I didn’t feel safe walking them, so this was one of the reasons I preferred they be spayed. http://www.caninesports.com/uploads/...tions_2013.pdf
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11-16-2018, 09:06 AM | #10 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
11-16-2018, 10:45 AM | #11 | |
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“Bitches spayed at 7 weeks had significantly delayed closure of growth plates as compared to those spayed at 7 months, and those spayed at 7 months had significantly delayed closure of growth plates as compared to those left intact” Dr..
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11-16-2018, 01:35 PM | #12 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
11-17-2018, 08:52 AM | #13 | |
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I will respectfully disagree and choose to spay a female after the first or second heat. Dr. Zink recommends waiting until after the second heat because of the incidence of other cancers and the orthopedic considerations in pups that were spayed early . In response to mammary tumors, she wrote, “ One study indicated a slightly increased risk of mammary cancer in female dogs after one heat cycle (8% increase), greater risk with two heats (26% increase) and increased risk with each subsequent heat.(19) However, a recent systematic review of the publications that advocate neutering to reduce the risk of mammary tumors in dogs indicated that 9 of 13 reports had a high risk of bias and the remaining 4 had a moderate risk of bias. This study concluded that the evidence that neutering reduces the risk of mammary cancer is weak and do not constitute a sound basis for firm recommendations.(20) Additionally, at the time when several of these studies were conducted (late 1960s). . .” Pyometra is a real threat, so I will always chose to spay my females or leave the ovaries intact and do a tubal ligation. All of my dogs love walking, and I won’t walk a pup in heat, so that is another factor for me. I don’t like to deny them something they love. Katie was spayed at three, since she was with her breeder until then. She was bred after she had attained her championship and then retired early. Her breeder prefers that her pups be spayed after their first heat. Katie has well defined nipples, so we routinely examine them. We have a huge overpopulation problem and too many pups are being euthanized, and because of this, I advocate spaying and neutering. To say that there are only pros and no cons is wishful thinking. This well-documented article by an esteemed veterinarian shows that. http://www.caninesports.com/uploads/...tions_2013.pdf Dr. Zink’s credentials From Wikipedia: Christine "Chris" Zink DVM, PhD, ACVP, is the director of the Department of Molecular and Comparative Pathobiology at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. She also holds professorships in the Department of Pathology at Johns Hopkins and in the Department of Molecular Microbiology and Immunology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Zink researches the response of the immune system to retroviruses such as HIV and is currently investigating an animal model of antiretroviral therapy[1] and the potential of a common antibiotic to prevent HIV-associated neurocognitive disorders.[2][3][4] As a veterinarian, Zink is known for consulting and writing on canine athletics[5] and is an expert on stem cell therapies for dogs.[6] She was named Outstanding Woman Veterinarian of the Year at the 2009 meeting of the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA).[7] Her books include Peak Performance: Coaching the Canine Athlete, Dog Health and Nutrition for Dummies, The Agility Advantage, and Jumping from A to Z: Teach Your Dog to Soar and Building the Canine Athlete: Strength, Stretching, Endurance and Body Awareness Exercises.[5] Zink is a Toronto-born Canadian[6] and has won several awards for her photography.
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11-17-2018, 10:23 AM | #14 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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